Topic: Hood turn signal wiring clip question

[Angela]

I have two questions pertaining to the hood turn signal wiring & clips for a 67 SanJose application:

(1) See the first picture, below. Is the clip shown in the picture supposed to lay flat against the cowl? My clip has two "nubs" (molded into the plastic clip which is taped to the wiring) on the back which won't allow it to lay flat against the cowl and I do not know why these two "nubs" are there.

(2) See second picture. Is clip "3" (379485-S) used elsewhere on the 67/68 cars?

[ruppstang]

Yes is should lay flat against the cowl. A picture of what you have would help.
The 379485-S clip was only used on the hood as far as I know. The early 67 hoods used several of them.
Marty

[Angela]

Thanks Marty. Here's a pic of the clip attached to my wiring harness for the hood turn signals. Perhaps I need to remove the two nubs so that it will lay flat. This harness is a replacement from Alloy Metal Products, inc.

You don't happen to have a spare 379485-S clip, would you? :-)

[67gta289]

Angela,

The drawing you posted is a 68 version.  For 67 there were multiple iterations.

Not sure how close to correct you are trying to get.

Here are original pictures from 7R01C1573**

[Angela]

Thanks John; great pics! I'm trying to be as close to factory correct as I possibly can. This is one of those rare cases where I simply haven't been able to locate an NOS wiring harness for the hood turn signals, and my original wiring is a total loss. That said, my car was built a week before they started building the 68's, and while controversial, I find some instances where the 68 traits seem to line up with my 67.

I hadn't seen the round plastic grommet in the hood. Do you know if that item is reproduced or what the PN is?

[ruppstang]

Thanks John; great pics! I'm trying to be as close to factory correct as I possibly can. This is one of those rare cases where I simply haven't been able to locate an NOS wiring harness for the hood turn signals, and my original wiring is a total loss. That said, my car was built a week before they started building the 68's, and while controversial, I find some instances where the 68 traits seem to line up with my 67.

I hadn't seen the round plastic grommet in the hood. Do you know if that item is reproduced or what the PN is?

I do not have any extra clips, rarely can you save them. Jim Chisem reproduces them. See pic, they are pretty close.
If your car is a late 67 yours would have not used the grommets.

[67gta289]

This is one of those rare cases where I simply haven't been able to locate an NOS wiring harness for the hood turn signals, and my original wiring is a total loss. That said, my car was built a week before they started building the 68's, and while controversial, I find some instances where the 68 traits seem to line up with my 67.

I hadn't seen the round plastic grommet in the hood. Do you know if that item is reproduced or what the PN is?

Angela, I understand - since the early to mid wiring harness design (I don't think we nailed a date range yet) was superseded by the version carried into 68, finding an NOS version packaged during that relatively narrow window (compared to some Ford "NOS" parts produced well into the 90's) would be quite a feat.

As Marty said, no round plastic grommet later in the year, the hood stamping was revised to roll the edge, eliminating the sharp edge, and eliminating as well the need for the grommet.

[Angela]

So, am I correct to interpret that the two "nubs" on the back of my wiring harness clip should not be there (see the picture I post November 16, 2014, 04:06:28 PM)?

[dave6768]

So, am I correct to interpret that the two "nubs" on the back of my wiring harness clip should not be there (see the picture I post November 16, 2014, 04:06:28 PM)?

Not to steal the thread...but I have the same question for my July 68 Metuchen.  I found a picture of my original and it does not appear to have the nubs.  I'm going see if I can put my hands on the original (If I can find what box it's in.)

[ruppstang]

I do not believe that the nubs should be there. I have some originals. I'll bring one home tonight for a picture.
Marty

[J_Speegle]

I do not believe that the nubs should be there. I have some originals. I'll bring one home tonight for a picture.
Marty

+1 - plastic holder is shaped very differently in 67 than the one showed in the picture (response #2 ) above. After looking at other original ones the holder is simply a attachment hole with a bar that was tapped to the wire loom in the pictures I have and have seen

[dave6768]

Found my original in a box.  68 July Metuchen.  I guess I'm going to cannibalize it to fix the aftermarket harness.

[drummingrocks]

Found my original in a box.  68 July Metuchen.  I guess I'm going to cannibalize it to fix the aftermarket harness.

Angela, glad you found a workaround.  Looking at your repro harness again, if worse comes to worse, you could just grind those nubs down, and then extend the wire harness tape a little to cover the ground areas.  I don't think anyone would ever be the wiser, especially when the clip is properly installed against the cowl.

[67gtasanjose]

In following this thread as an unrelated, yet similar need,  I wish to assemble or have assembled a hood harness with correct features (for a 11/66 S.J.)

As of now, I have an original 68 version in very good condition and wondered if it could be converted or should I simply look elsewhere. I understand they are not reproduced so if going elsewhere, I would like good close-up details of what I should be looking for. Marty (ruppstang) had good shots of the correct fasteners and the top side, coming out of the holes.

Correct me if I am wrong but the bottom, coming out of holes (with the grommet) should have the braided covering and a clip style like Angela is looking for, correct?

If this is all correct, does anyone have photos that would show the correct taping process?

Richard