Topic: 1969 Engine 428 Paint detail questions / processes

[69eliminator]

I need help with a paint  detail process for my 428 and can't find a section when I search  the archive.
How was the engine painted ( i.e. what components were on the engine prior to paint ) ?
was the transmission ( C6) attached to the engine prior to paint? if so should there be much overspray on trans case?

thanks for any help that can be provided. I searched the web trying to find Bob Perkins Mustang Monthly article about how to detail a 428 but MM website doesn't show that archive and I haven't found any other helpful tips on other websites
Thanks for any help
best,
Brian

[J_Speegle]

I need help with a paint  detail process for my 428 and can't find a section when I search  the archive.
How was the engine painted ( i.e. what components were on the engine prior to paint ) ?
was the transmission ( C6) attached to the engine prior to paint? if so should there be much overspray on trans case?

No like the early pictures we posted of the 65-68 engines the automatic transmissions were not attached until they arrived at the assembly plant and being prepared to place in the car.


OK will try and post a list of what was attached to the engine block at the time the engine was painted. IF I forget something, others, please feel free to add in and will discuss until we get a solid list for members. Only will list items that make up surfaces that will be visible on the exterior of the engine once completed

69 - 428CJ

1- engine block with freeze plugs and drain plugs installed

2- cylinder heads

3- intake manifold

4- oil pan with plug installed

5- crankshaft with mask over the front snout

6- crankshaft snout spacer or hatchet (if a SCJ)

7- timing cover, timing pointer and attaching hardware

8- water piump

9- engine plate at the rear of the engine

10- flywheel

11- thermostate housing with vacuum tree (ported vacuum switch) installed

12- thermactor bypass/gulp valve mount

13- thermactor manifolds attached to each head as well as the attached check valves

14- dip stick tub attached

15- Bypass hose and clamps - between waterpump and intake manifold

16- all mounting hardware and gaskets used to attach and seal the above parts to other items in the list

17- intake manifold vacuum connections.
Installed -
front vacuum block,
vacuum tube between front and rear block as well as the PCV. Rubber hose out to the PCV as well as clamps and valve. Have seen paint out to the valve or fade somewhere on the rubber hose.
Rear vacuum block between tubing and intake as well as short hose and clamps

18- masks installed over heater hose nipples, water pump snout (where the pulley connects to the pump end),  ported vacuum switch, oil filter bracket mounting surface,  radiator hose connections and fuel pump mounting flange

19- lots of discussion about if the exhaust manifolds and mounting hardware were attached at the time the engine was painted

Ok there is a start lets we if we can make it better

[Mike_B_SVT]

Ok there is a start lets we if we can make it better

I know the question was asked regarding '69, but does the same apply to '70 engines as well?  Also, does it matter which factory the car was built at?
Or are there enough differences that '70 cars should get thier own thread?

[rockhouse66]

Jeff - when you say crankshaft snout covered, I think the crank spacer (or "hatchet" on a SCJ car) were also on the crank snout and partially covered.  So some blue overspray on the spacer.

[midlife]

Wow...overspray on the flywheel?  Or was the flywheel masked as well?

[J_Speegle]

Jeff - when you say crankshaft snout covered, I think the crank spacer (or "hatchet" on a SCJ car) were also on the crank snout and partially covered.  So some blue overspray on the spacer.

Question so far is not how or where it was painted by the OP just what was attached. But will add the spacer or hatchet note

I know the question was asked regarding '69, but does the same apply to '70 engines as well?  Also, does it matter which factory the car was built at?
Or are there enough differences that '70 cars should get thier own thread?

Think focusing on one year might be enough at this point since if we add 68 - 780 we'll get all kinds of foot notes possibly.

Assembly plant should have nothing to do with these details since they were all supplied by the same engine plants. When the engine was painted might make a difference though I can't think of any at this point

Wow...overspray on the flywheel?  Or was the flywheel masked as well?

Never said anything thing that suggested that it got painted - no more than the back side of the engine plate

Will change it to may have been

[JohnRB]

http://www.sunbunnybrown.com/detailshop/manual/

[J_Speegle]

http://www.sunbunnybrown.com/detailshop/manual/

Can't find my copy this moment - what page is the list with what parts were on the engine when painted??

[JohnRB]

Can't find my copy this moment -..............................

Ditto   In storage

[willy001]

Would this list also apply to the 69 S code 390?
Not sure if the 428 CJ and the 390 IP were built on the same line.

[J_Speegle]

Would this list also apply to the 69 S code 390?

Started to put the 390 also in the header but realized there were some differences so choose not to Items such as the thermactor parts were not installed in 69

Ditto   In storage

So we don't know if there is a list. Don't recall one  - so I guess its back to our effort

[Brian Conway]

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[J_Speegle]

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Thanks - like me it looks like he missed/left out a couple or so - but this was printed maybe 15 years ago... think I was listed in the credits somewhere if I recall correctly. And again he was trying to cover all 428 CJ

Will update the list above with the timing pointer and hardware as well as thermactor check valves .

[69eliminator]

thanks everyone
greatly appreciate the help
regards,
brian