Topic: '69 rear spoiler questions

[J_Speegle]

So does anyone have pictures of an original 69 Boss with a rear spoiler to show what the mounting with the original hardware looked like?  I was not able to come up with anything.

Looking for something in place  (top side - bottom side?) , installed on a trunk lid?  Not much to see except the heads of the bolts and the bottom of the washers. Hardware is in #6. Reinforcement tubes, special (well different) bolts and the washers. Should also have the original gaskets somewhere round here - lent them out to have them reproduced

Let me know exactly what you need and I'll see how I can help

[Anghelrestorations]

Ideally I would like to see the underside of the trunk lid with the spoiler installed to get a visual how they modified the trunk lid for the 69 Boss 302 spoiler installation.  I assume the trunk lid was modified for the spoiler. 

[J_Speegle]

Ideally I would like to see the underside of the trunk lid with the spoiler installed to get a visual how they modified the trunk lid for the 69 Boss 302 spoiler installation.  I assume the trunk lid was modified for the spoiler.

Just four drilled holes, through the inner and outer skin with each one.   Will see what I have in the photo vault

[Mike_B_SVT]

So does anyone have pictures of an original 69 Boss with a rear spoiler to show what the mounting with the original hardware looked like?  I was not able to come up with anything.

Good morning Marcus!  Try posting the request over on the Boss 302 forum ~ probably more likely to find guys with an original setup.

[J_Speegle]

I have the 1969 31" spoiler with the 6 rivets. It appears that the assembly (spoiler, pedestals and pedestal cover ) were painted prior to assembly and that the rivets are left bare metal. is this the correct way  to restore?

Sorry it took so long to find some support and post these

[J_Speegle]

Ideally I would like to see the underside of the trunk lid with the spoiler installed to get a visual how they modified the trunk lid for the 69 Boss 302 spoiler installation.  I assume the trunk lid was modified for the spoiler.

The challenge is that so many have been changed or altered in some way - or judge not great pictures. Currently mine has a 70 spoiler and trunk lid so can't use that as a correct example



Original (warped) rear spoiler/wing some other non-original details in picture


Another example


But other examples

Right hardware - poor picture



Right hardware - better picture - incorrect paint details in picture


Wrong spoiler/wind hardware

[Anghelrestorations]

Great pictures....thanks for posting.  So those spacers you posted earlier I assume were somehow put between the inner and outer trunk lid skins.

[J_Speegle]

Great pictures....thanks for posting.  So those spacers you posted earlier I assume were somehow put between the inner and outer trunk lid skins.

Well not exactly the hole that was drilled allows the spacer to be inserted, so technically they sit between the base or outer skin and the washer. Bleive the design/plan was that once tightened there was enough compression on the gasket to seal the water out and keep the spoiler in place.

Haven't measure the diameter of the outer and the inner holes to see if there is a slight size difference.

[Anghelrestorations]

Ok ok....that makes much more sense then.  I see exactly what you are saying now. 

[67gtasanjose]

Well not exactly the hole that was drilled allows the spacer to be inserted, so technically they sit between the base or outer skin and the washer. Bleive the design/plan was that once tightened there was enough compression on the gasket to seal the water out and keep the spoiler in place.

Haven't measure the diameter of the outer and the inner holes to see if there is a slight size difference.

I would assume, (I loathe that word) from an engineering standpoint, that the upper hole would have to be smaller. I am suprised that this wouldn't be a fully understood (one way or the other) by the 69-70 experts here on this forum. Are there really that FEW orihinal examples with this spoiler in 69?

[J_Speegle]

.,...... I am suprised that this wouldn't be a fully understood (one way or the other) by the 69-70 experts here on this forum. Are there really that FEW original examples with this spoiler in 69?

Only a fairly small number of Boss 302's were built in 69, plenty of them ordered without the spoiler and fewer today have the original spoilers in place. Most were swapped out for the 70 style when the original started to bend/warp and reproductions become available. Add to that the number (during "restoration") that had the trunk lid replaced and once in place owners that never have a reason to remove to look at the inner details.

Well that's my excuse 

Of course some would say the same about the 67 guys and the lack of solid info on the convenience or tilt option - Sorry too easy 

Plenty of areas for research to keep us all busy

[Anghelrestorations]

Nobody has all the answers...thats kind of the point here on this forum I think to share some of the expertise we all have.  As for this 69 Boss spoiler mounting, yes, I have to agree thats pretty rare that you find one that has not been messed with over its life.  I have alot of pictures I have taken over the years and could not find anything.

[67gtasanjose]

Nobody has all the answers...thats kind of the point here on this forum I think to share some of the expertise we all have.

oops, sorry if I seemed out of line here...like I said, I loathe that word, certainly in this situation, more of a "me" thing than a "u" thing. 

[Anghelrestorations]

No problem.  I myself don't consider myself an expert....there is some things I know better than most, and other things I am not as familiar with, so an open forum discussion like this helps everyone, and alot of us learn from it.  Just imagine a dark world before there was forums and the internet.  Its a pretty scary place. 

[PerkinsRestoration]

This should help, original installation instructions.