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Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« on: March 19, 2010, 03:09:26 PM »
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2010, 03:14:56 PM »
Hard to tell from the photos, I know the 68's had huge letters on them with wild looking notches and such, I am going to a salvage yard tomorrow, 65's and 66's are there too, could get you a set if interested.
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Original Owners, custom ordered from Clemmons Ford, Henderson NC

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2010, 03:42:25 PM »
Yep!!!

If you see a 66 with REAR belts, I'll send you a check or PayPal you.
A picture of the two outboard attaching points would also be appreciated.

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66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2010, 04:31:41 PM »
Bryan,
I have pics of my May 66 convertible with rear seat removed and the seatbelts in place before I removed them. I could take locating measurements/more pictures if you need. Let me know. I also believe the bolts when I removed them were phosphate or plain (no plating or chrome). I'll dig the package out to see.
Dave
65 Coupe Dearborn Scheduled Build July 9,1965 289/C4
66 Sprint Conv. Dearborn Scheduled Build May 13, 1966 200/C4

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 05:07:38 PM »
Here are the pics of my front and rear bolts (The rear at the bottom)
Dave


65 Coupe Dearborn Scheduled Build July 9,1965 289/C4
66 Sprint Conv. Dearborn Scheduled Build May 13, 1966 200/C4

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2010, 08:40:09 PM »

If I want to add seatbelts to the rear seat of my 66 convt., Are these the concours correct bolts?

IMHO - yes those are what was used during 65-66. Later years are very different
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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2010, 08:57:11 PM »
Twilight,

My rear wheelhouses have the factory oval holes punched already.  I guess the factory used what they had but it did not come with rear seatbelts.  The reinforced/threaded plates are not present on the underside.  I'd still like to see your pic of what the belts are suppose to look like, when bolted in :D
ThHanks
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 11:11:35 PM »
My rear wheelhouses have the factory oval holes punched already.  I guess the factory used what they had but it did not come with rear seatbelts.  The reinforced/threaded plates are not present on the underside.  I'd still like to see your pic of what the belts are suppose to look like, when bolted in :D
ThHanks

No rear seat belt anchors present in a mid-year '66 car?  I would be doing some serious inspection of the rear of the car.  Sounds to me like there has been some sheet metal work done at some time.
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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 10:14:59 AM »
Charles,
Do I understand you correctly?
Is it impossible that the oval punched holes in the wheelhouses are factory on my car?
When I roll up under the car on a creeper, IT"S VERY CLEAR that no floorpan or wheelhouse sheetmetal has ever been replaced???????????
BC
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 10:25:04 AM »
Here are pics of seatbelts with rear seat removed. I'll try and get some of underside also.

Dave



65 Coupe Dearborn Scheduled Build July 9,1965 289/C4
66 Sprint Conv. Dearborn Scheduled Build May 13, 1966 200/C4

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 11:29:34 AM »
Twilight's outboard 2 do not bolt where my oval holes are.  Now I'm doubting the oval holes are for seatbelt attachment points.
Charles posted some pictures recently of a 66 fastback, I believe, on the rotisserie, of which he had just painted the undercarriage.  It clearly showed seatbelt attachments in the inner wheelhouses.  My quarter trim panels clearly have a rectangular cut away that seems to allow for the outer 2 to attach to where my oval holes are.  My inner 2 are in the same place as Twilight's and already have the threaded plates installed.  Looks factory to me!!!  You can clearly see from my pictures that my car has never been restored and the Metuchen underpaint is in tact and no rust anywhere.  I just do not feel ANY sheetmetal work has been done.  If it has...they were superb at their skills.  The ONLY thing that has been butchered is the owner I bought it from in 1978, had put dual exhaust on it and just used "grubworm" bolts through the floorpans to hang the muflers.  He tied the rubber brake line away from the exhaust using safety wire.  That's worked for 40 years.  When I install Arvinodes in a couple of years, I will repair his stuff and do it just like FORD would have.







66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 11:40:54 AM »
Here's Charles' 66 Metuchen fastback I was talking about.
http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/66_fb/2_6_10/2_6_10_06.jpg
« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 11:46:10 AM by bryancobb »
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 11:48:57 AM »
Another question?  Move this one to another thread if neccessary.
Q:  Is the frame of the rear seat BACK supose to bear on the hydraulic lines for the convt. top like it shows in my next-to-last picture??
BC
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 01:28:14 PM »
My sheet metal had the extra holes also but have a rubber plug in them. See picture.
Dave


« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 01:57:24 PM by Twilight65 »
65 Coupe Dearborn Scheduled Build July 9,1965 289/C4
66 Sprint Conv. Dearborn Scheduled Build May 13, 1966 200/C4

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Re: Rear Seat Belt Bolts
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2010, 02:22:56 PM »
My sheet metal had the extra holes also but have a rubber plug in them. See picture.

That's what I'm used to seeing on 66-67 convertibles.

In Bryan's pics, there appears to be some red-oxide primer touch-up to the rear area of the car.  Hard to say what has been done.
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