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Offline 65fastbk

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67 K/H calipers
« on: June 28, 2014, 03:25:00 AM »
I am thinking of purchasing calipers with the casting numbers of 71312 and 71315 on the body's not sure the inlet size...are these casting numbers for a 67 mustang?

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Re: 67 K/H calipers
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2014, 09:09:52 AM »
I can not tell you about those numbers but the numbers on our SJ 11-04-66 built 67 have 56877 on both sides.

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Re: 67 K/H calipers
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 09:17:04 AM »
Likewise what Marty said, 11/02/66 had these. There is another number on the outer half, it also looks to be the same right side or left.

It looks like the castings must have been the same, then holes for lines and bleeders done afterwards.

For any qualifying information, I can say this is the first time I have ever removed (just this morning) since 1978, except for laying them asside on the hoses for repacking bearings and one time turning the rotors. I still had original hoses and hadn't ever disconnected them before this morning.

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« Last Edit: June 28, 2014, 09:29:30 AM by 67gtasanjose »
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Re: 67 K/H calipers
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 03:46:26 PM »
Early build SJ 67 car's used the small inlet like the 65/66 and the later production cars used the larger inlet. Just one of the many running changes in 67.
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67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2015, 10:46:29 PM »
Do these part numbers and stampings look correct for a Dec 66 SJ?  If not what should I be looking for?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 11:26:19 PM by J_Speegle »
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67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2015, 11:24:01 PM »
An original example from a December 15th scheduled car - Looks like a possible match





And just for comparison for others, one from a March scheduled example. Both San Jose



« Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 11:26:35 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 06:09:58 AM »
John, I hear this voice echoing in my head....

"THE SEARCH FEATURE IS YOUR FRIEND, ...The search feature is your friend...the search feature is your friend..."

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8827.msg51459#msg51459
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 07:05:36 AM »
Hey that is often my line - no fair!  Thanks for the replies, will check thread sizes also.
John
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 08:41:36 PM »
Thread size on the source line is 7/16 x 24 NS (national special).

Jeff, not to get off trail, but the first picture you provided has what I normally consider a 65-66 brake pad retainer (one large piece), whereas the last picture has what I consider the 67 style, two independent smaller retainers.  Do you concur, is that a slam dunk observation, or do I need to start a different thread?  I guess my post started with threads and ended the same.

Thanks, John
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2015, 01:13:21 AM »
Jeff, not to get off trail,..................

We're still discussing Early San Jose calipers no problem following this path of discussion ;)

Believe you will find that the details you see in that picture is the way early 67 San Jose Disc brake cars were equipped and that the retainer changed with the change to the "stronger" reinforced caliper later in the year.  Looks like the original safety wire is still in place a rare occurrence IMHO
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2015, 07:52:28 AM »
John, Jeff's first picture and all of the pictures in your original post seem to follow your questioning for EARLY caliper design. and all of those pictures look like what I have on my very early November SJ example. (pictures of my calipers are in the other thread I put a link to earlier)

I couldn't tell you when the 67 late design entered the picture (fairly sure the MPC would give the date) but it MAY stand to reason the change occured whenever all of the brake/fuel lines design changed

I have the MPC now on disc but it is at work, so  cannot look at this moment It stands to reason, like Jeff said, that  the hardware would change at the same time the calipers did.

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Re: 67 K/H calipers
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 07:59:40 AM »
Early build SJ 67 car's used the small inlet like the 65/66 and the later production cars used the larger inlet. Just one of the many running changes in 67.

I'm getting too OLD to "keep up" with all of the "RUNNING" changes of the 67's  ;D ;D

John, I brought this old topic up to help tie it in to the other newer thread
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=10708.new#new
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 11:42:15 PM »
I couldn't tell you when the 67 late design entered the picture (fairly sure the MPC would give the date) but it MAY stand to reason the change occured whenever all of the brake/fuel lines design changed

Checked and the MPC shows a change from C7OZ-2B120 & 2B121-B to C7OZ-2B120 & 2B121-C on 10/17/66 but that doesn't seem to hold up well when compared to what they actually did at the plants - original unrestored examples. Another swing and miss for the MPC ;)

BTW the page is from a Aug 1967 version
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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2015, 11:46:06 PM »
Here are some shots of the calipers that were on my 1967 390 GTA convertible. The car was built in SJ on Sept. 22, 1966. 
The first five photos are of the driver side caliper, and the other seven are the passenger side...

1967 390 GTA Convertible
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76B - V - 6U - 30J - 72 - 1 - U
(Actually built on 9/22/1966 - Eight days ahead of schedule)

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Re: 67 K/H Calipers - Early
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 02:00:50 AM »
Here are some shots of the calipers that were on my 1967 390 GTA convertible. The car was built in SJ on Sept. 22, 1966. 
The first five photos are of the driver side caliper, and the other seven are the passenger side...
Those are the later style with the different bolts and the larger diameter C7 brake hose.
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