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Offline bjf1992

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Power Steering hose routing
« on: June 19, 2014, 01:46:55 PM »
I just received my P/S setup from Chockostang. They look great, however the hoses running from the control valve to the pump appear to be incorrect. The hoses are from Blue Dot. Has anyone had the same issue?? I've attached a scan of an original setup and a picture of what I received back from Chockostang. Dan at Chockostang installed the hoses, but pointed out the difference in fit.
1969 Q Code Standard Cougar Convertible P/S, P/B, A/C
Pastel Grey, Lt. Blue interior Black Top
Built April 2nd, Dearborn

1969 Mustang Sportsroof
September 68 Build date, Metuchen

Offline krelboyne

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 05:50:45 PM »
What engine are you putting this on? The big block hoses route under the frame stand.
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Offline bjf1992

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 07:56:41 PM »
1969 428CJ
1969 Q Code Standard Cougar Convertible P/S, P/B, A/C
Pastel Grey, Lt. Blue interior Black Top
Built April 2nd, Dearborn

1969 Mustang Sportsroof
September 68 Build date, Metuchen

Offline rockhouse66

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 08:49:04 PM »
Perhaps I don't understand the question, but the steel lines you show can be fitted more closely to the control valve by rotating them at the sealing nut and then retained to the control valve by what looks like a water hose clamp (which is correct style BTW).  They may need a little tweaking to fit snugly, but I just installed a set of these on my 428 CJ car and they fit fine.
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Offline Bob Gaines

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 08:50:12 PM »
I just received my P/S setup from Chockostang. They look great, however the hoses running from the control valve to the pump appear to be incorrect. The hoses are from Blue Dot. Has anyone had the same issue?? I've attached a scan of an original setup and a picture of what I received back from Chockostang. Dan at Chockostang installed the hoses, but pointed out the difference in fit.
From the picture it appears correct for a CJ Mustang. Chockostang forgot to install the screw clamp like the factory did . It goes where the control valve necks down and goes around both hoses to hold them tight . There is a second hose section the connects where the first one ends.You don't show that one in your picture.The second one is what goes up to the back of the P/S pump. There is a metal bracket with a rubber block the hold the hoses at the point were they both connect.The return hose is also held there too.I hope this helps.
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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 08:48:08 AM »
In addition to the missing clamp the hoses in the second picture are routed incorrectly. The hose that mounts to the highest position on the valve should go under the other one where it touches control valve. It is supposed to help support it after it leaves the valve. When you look at a car from the front and see hoses drooping, this is the reason.
Dont know if this matters but are you trying to be concours correct? Several finishes on the valve are not as factory
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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 11:40:24 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I haven't tried to reroute the hoses. I'm just passing on what Dan at Chockostang told me when I got the system back. I will play with the hoses and see if I can get them to route the correct way. I am trying to be factory correct so it also seems I need to refinish some parts as well.......
1969 Q Code Standard Cougar Convertible P/S, P/B, A/C
Pastel Grey, Lt. Blue interior Black Top
Built April 2nd, Dearborn

1969 Mustang Sportsroof
September 68 Build date, Metuchen

Offline Bob Gaines

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 01:42:34 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I haven't tried to reroute the hoses. I'm just passing on what Dan at Chockostang told me when I got the system back. I will play with the hoses and see if I can get them to route the correct way. I am trying to be factory correct so it also seems I need to refinish some parts as well.......
The hoses appear correct for a CJ and the missing clamp is needed as I said .The routing of the hoses as they leave the control valve are not correct  as Tim mentioned. The finish's are not exact as Tim also mentioned but these hoses are heads and shoulders above what has been available after market previously and look very close . I would be careful not to fixate on small nuance details until the big picture is that close too. The routing is very important as a example . You have got to ask yourself is the rest of the car THAT concours correct when considering adding some of the zinc dichromate finish's (gold) to a few areas lacking on the P/S hoses. If you do not know it is best to get some advice from someone who does. I am not saying it is not important but the big picture is the most important IMO. No body is going to care if a small part of the powersteering hoses have the correct finish or not if the rest of the undercarriage, interior ,and exterior is not correct etc. also. I have seen time and time again car owners fixate on some minute detail that takes all of their time studying ,researching and not only diminishes their car enjoyment but wastes their resources that are better spent on how the car looks over all.  I would hate for you to get the wrong idea and go down that small detail path until you are ready. Just my opinion so you that you have the best experience.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

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Re: Power Steering hose routing
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 03:55:26 PM »
I'm not going to go to insane, however the car is extremely original and complete and rare so I want to do it to the best of my ability. It's the little details I enjoy researching. There is no point in doing something incorrectly if doing it correctly isn't that much harder. The car has already been stripped to bare metal and is hanging on a rotisserie waiting to be painted. I figure now's the time to make sure as I clean and restore the hardware to do my best to make it as correct as possible.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 03:59:57 PM by bjf1992 »
1969 Q Code Standard Cougar Convertible P/S, P/B, A/C
Pastel Grey, Lt. Blue interior Black Top
Built April 2nd, Dearborn

1969 Mustang Sportsroof
September 68 Build date, Metuchen