Topic: Emergency Flasher

[Angela]

Thanks for the additional pictures and explanation. :-)   

In the osborn electrical manual I'm reading it specifies yellow insulators at the ends of the wires for the emergency flasher wires. This coincides with the photos I took when I tore the car apart many years ago. Unfortunately, the clip or bracket that held the emergency flasher was gone. However, my turn signal flasher clip was still there, and it was bolted (a bolt, not a screw) to the brake pedal support bracket, just above the steering column.

So, I gather from your observations there must also be a clip that screws to the vertical dash support, using the same screw that holds the GND wire to that bracket. I have never seen one of these clips, but it must be different than the turn signal flasher clip, since the mounting hole would have to be smaller to work with the self-tapping sheet metal screw.

I'll need to post a wanted ad for this clip.... I've never seen one.... maybe someone has one they're willing to part with?

[Angela]

I found this emergency flasher clip attached to the back of a "spare" '67 gauge cluster I didn't even know I owned. :-)  Any chance others have seen this option and might know when and where it was used?

[67gta289]

I found this emergency flasher clip attached to the back of a "spare" '67 gauge cluster I didn't even know I owned. :-)  Any chance others have seen this option and might know when and where it was used?

I think that we previously correctly concluded that the "emergency" flasher is located on the dash sub structure, and the "turn signal" flasher is mounted on the back of the IP.

I've been thinking about the location, inconvenient from a replacement perspective. There is a noise level requirement so that the driver can hear it.  Locating the flasher unit attached to the IP might have been done so for this reason.  It seems odd that the wires were not part of the main cluster harness and was connected separately.  Granted, the noise level requirement is active today, and might not have been there in 1967.  This is merely speculation.   

Regarding the blue plastic bracket, that is interesting.  Pictured below is a metal bracket used on the emergency flasher located to dash sub structure.  I'm inclined to think that the original design was metal, not plastic.

Also pictured are a couple metal based flashers, and some plastic ones with built in tabs.  Based on my observations (consider how little "plastic" was used in 1967 cars compared to today), I'm thinking that the plastic flasher units are all service or aftermarket parts.  This is a bit dangerous, and I'm sure that if someone has proof to the contrary we will hear about it   But that's ok.  Sometimes it takes a supposition to bring these things out.

I have not found or recall seeing any metal brackets on the turn signal unit on the back of the IP.  Given that the rectangular hole is designed to take the plastic tabs so well, that might blow my theory.

The pictures are in the attached PDF.

[J_Speegle]

.............. Any chance others have seen this option and might know when and where it was used?

Never seen one like that on a car, laying around the insides of a Mustang or seen one for sale at a swap meet in parts from a parted out car.

Looks very unusual

[Angela]

I should have done a better job posting pictures of the clip "adapter", above. The clip actually is metal and is attached to the blue plastic with a Tinnerman nut. The markings on the plastic portion of this clip are identical to the all-plastic flasher module previously discussed in this thread.

Respectfully, I'm not in agreement that the turn signal flasher was (always) located in the instrument panel, although I understand that may have been true in some cases.  The Ford '67 electrical wiring diagrams, as well as the Osborn electrical assembly diagram, as well as tear-down pics I took of my (June 30 '67) SanJose application placed the turn signal flasher within a metal clip attached to the brake pedal bracket. The bolt holding this clip also held a wiring loom hanger and the wires connected to the turn sig flasher are indeed part of the wiring loom.... they simply would not reach the instrument panel if one wanted them to.

My particular '67 wiring harness coincides with the above-mentioned wiring diagrams in that the wires for the emergency flasher would only reach either the instrument panel (barely) or a clip just behind the vertical dash suppport bracket (immediately behind the cluster). Sadly, I didn't document where my emergency flasher was located when I dissassembled the car.

[67gta289]

To be clear, I'm not saying that they were all on the IP.  My observations are that "early" (used loosely) 67 models located the turn signal flasher units on the back of the IP.  You and others have noted that "late" 67 and 68's were not located on the IP, but on the vertical dash sub structure.

I for one would love to see some pictures of that for education now, and for possible future use. 

Re-reading your post, I'm confused in the last paragraph since you switch to the emergency flasher.  Was that a mistake?  Your statement "would reach the IP barely" should not apply to the emergency flasher.

The emergency flashers that I've seen are located behind the vertical dash sub structure.  I have not read anything that discusses any changes during the 67 model year (MY) or between the 67-68 MYs.

If you look at my previous PDF, focusing solely on the emergency flasher unit location and bracket, do you think that there was a running change during MY 67 and yours should be different?  From what I've read the only difference is in the turn signal flasher unit location.

Thanks.  I always give the benefit of the doubt in terms of respect, and try to give it also.  Sometimes the words and phrases used don't make that clear.

[ruppstang]

John,
I checked all of my clusters on the shelf and found no 68s with the EF hole and only one 67 with it. We will have to try to figure out when that change was made.

[67gta289]

Thanks Marty - but that IP hold would be for the TF (Turn signal Flasher) not the EF (Emergency Flasher)

[67gta289]

Just found a bracket that matches the emergency flasher bracket I found on my Dec built 67.

First picture below is mine.

Second from Ebay.  You get a few more parts in addition to the bracket.  Makes sense that this would be part used across multiple car lines.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-1966-MUSTANG-SHELBY-FALCON-GALAXIE-HAZARD-WARNING-SWITCH-OEM-Complete-NICE-/380860605747?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58ad0fa533&vxp=mtr

[ruppstang]

I have a couple of those I thought we were looking for the flat one with the same hole as used in the IP.

[Angela]

Dangit. I didn't see this post about the ebay item until this morning, and of course, it's sold. Banging head here......

Ugh!

[ruppstang]

I finally found the picture showing the flat flasher bracket.

[Angela]

Awesome! Great pic. thanks!  My car has those same three holes and I've often wondered what each is for. I've gotten the impression over the years that perhaps all three screw holes were not used on all applications, yet I have no proof of that.

Confirmation of the intended use of these three holes would be great. I *think* #1 is where the GND strap and flasher clip were held.

[ruppstang]

2&3 are hold down clips for the main wire harness and 1 is for the ground. The EF would go in the hole on the LH side that the top arc of the circle you drew around  #2 is all most covering.

[Angela]

Ahhhh, thanks...very interesting. Based on reply #14, I thought the same screw which held the GND wire to the dash also held the flasher clamp. Are you stating there really should be four holes, the 4th would be that which held the flasher clip?