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Offline Angela

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Emergency Flasher
« on: March 09, 2014, 11:27:43 AM »
This is sad, and I cringe to ask, but is there a general census as to where the factory hung the emergency flasher in '67 (most specifically in SanJose applications)? Looking at three original wiring harness I scrounged over the years, I see two different metal clamps holding the emergency flashers (and another clamp, different, for the turn signal flasher). I have no recollection of where the emergency flasher clamp (holder) was mounted, if at all (3rd wiring harness doesn't have a clamp and I am sure I would have grabbed it had it been there). I Do remeber the turn sig flasher mounts to a clip on the bracket that holds the steering column.
Is there a clamp for the emergency flasher and if yes, where does it mount? One of the two clamps I have has a tag on it that says "bolted to bottom left instrument cluster screw"..... but I don't immediately find any evidence (on-line images) that's correct.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 10:02:59 AM »
Is this where the emergency flasher is supposed to be installed? I don't think the "tang" on my flasher will hold anymore, but it would still be good to confirm where this flasher is supposed to be mounted.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 11:58:34 AM »
All I can say is that it does hold "a" flasher. Don't recall if emergency or turn signal, and can't check until tonight.  Hopefully someone else can do that.  Picture here:
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 01:44:11 PM »
Hmmm, interesting; your picture shows the emergency flasher closer to the tach-side of the cluster, whereas I thought it should go closer to the speedo side due to the proximity of the dash harness wires. I am certain my emergency flasher wires will not reach the tach-side of the cluster.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 02:11:15 PM »
I've got two more in storage, will check tonight.

The one pictured is interesting because there are no wires connected...  but it is as it was when I pulled it.
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
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MCA 74660

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 08:39:48 PM »
Hmmm, interesting; your picture shows the emergency flasher closer to the tach-side of the cluster, whereas I thought it should go closer to the speedo side due to the proximity of the dash harness wires. I am certain my emergency flasher wires will not reach the tach-side of the cluster.

I happen to have three 67 clusters on hand, all interior decor with clock but no tach.  Looks like the "tach side" is the only place for the flasher.

Also looks like the flasher signal does not go through the actual cluster harness and plug, but rather through a separate harness.  Forget that detail.

Hopefully this helps and you don't need a wire-stretcher. 
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 08:50:09 PM »
I have never seen one mounted on the back of the cluster. There are two different clamps that screw to the dash sub structure that mount them. I think the idea was that they could be serviced with pulling the cluster.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 02:22:22 PM »
The mounting location for the flasher unit changed sometime during the 67 model year. It seems that every early 67 cluster that I pulled during my days scavenging auto yards had the flasher mounted on the back of the cluster. And later 67 and all of 68s were mounted in one of clips that Marty mentions.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2014, 09:59:34 PM »
The mounting location for the flasher unit changed sometime during the 67 model year. It seems that every early 67 cluster that I pulled during my days scavenging auto yards had the flasher mounted on the back of the cluster. And later 67 and all of 68s were mounted in one of clips that Marty mentions.

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Thanks Pete that is good do you have any idea of the change over date. Marty

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2014, 11:10:02 PM »
For reference, the 67 clusters pictured above are from 7F01C129..., 7T01C144..., and 7R02C156...

How do you like that, one from each plant!
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 09:26:18 AM »
Just because the hole was still there does not mean that is where the flasher mounted. I would need to check the inner dash to see if the latter mounts were present.

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 05:47:56 PM »
Good discussion. To the comment about later '67's moving the emergency flasher from the back of the gauge cluster to a clip screwed to a support bracket somewhere behind the cluster...... can anyone shed more light on what this bracket looked like and where it may have been mounted?    My car IS a later '67 (June 30, 67) yet I don't see any evidence of a bracket that would hold the flasher, except of course the clip mounted to the brake pedal / steering column support which holds the turn signal flasher. Does the clip in question look identical to the turn signal flasher clip?

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 06:00:57 PM »
Marty, I've organized my observations and pictures in the attached document.

All I'm doing here is sharing what I've seen.

This appears to be in agreement with Pete's statement that "every early 67 cluster that I pulled during my days scavenging auto yards had the flasher mounted on the back of the cluster"
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 06:24:17 PM »
Thanks John; great document!

Couple questions:
(1) What do you mean when you say "IP"?
(2) It's my understanding that the bright yellow wire connectors attach to the emergency flasher, do you agree?
(3) I cannot tell what the clip looks like which is holding your emergency flasher....do you have a picture of that clip? Not the clip that holds the turn sig flasher.... the clip that holds the emergency flasher (blue flasher housing)

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Re: Emergency Flasher
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2014, 07:22:15 PM »
Thanks John; great document!

Couple questions:
(1) What do you mean when you say "IP"?
(2) It's my understanding that the bright yellow wire connectors attach to the emergency flasher, do you agree?
(3) I cannot tell what the clip looks like which is holding your emergency flasher....do you have a picture of that clip? Not the clip that holds the turn sig flasher.... the clip that holds the emergency flasher (blue flasher housing)

Sorry about that, IP is a TLA (two letter acronym) for Instrument Panel.

From the shop manual...

1. Turn signal flasher connected to wires 8 (orange-yellow stripe) and 44 (blue).
2. Emergency warning flasher connected to wires 383 (red-white stripe) and 385 (white-red stripe)

In my opinion, the wire colors are a safer bet to refer to than compared to the color of the insulation on the connectors.

So I'll have to amend my previous post and attachment - the emergency flasher is mounted behind the vertical support, while the turn signal flasher is mounted on the back of the IP.

The clip for the turn signal is built into the rear of the flasher unit - it snaps onto the IP.

Consider though that we are talking about November and December built cars, yours is later and the turn signal might be in a different location as discussed in the thread.  I don't have a picture of that.

Finally, for the clamp that holds the emergency flasher, I looked through 50 pictures on 3 cars and can come real close, but no cigar.  I think (room for correction as always) that the ground screw in the first picture below pulls double duty, and holds a clamp that we can't see in the picture.  The second picture is with all the goodies removed.

Actually with the wire harnesses in place, and the AC in dash air vent tubes, getting a picture of that little bugger would be difficult.

I probably have one or two sitting around in a box...but that would be for another day.
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
7R02C156xxx
MCA 74660