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Offline 67gta289

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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2014, 03:49:01 PM »
The 7F02C200xxx one owner unrestored car I just saw was a standard interior, and had the thick pad over the gas tank, so I think that the "deluxe = gas tank pad" is incorrect.  The saga continues.
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2015, 07:49:40 AM »
As I am taking a part of my trunk under restoration, I found this topic when searching as much information as I can concerning correct trunk layout...
When I removed the protection carpet (it is just a rug  :o) I found an underlayment that looks very old  ;D.
Is it original or not, that I let the specialist to decide.
I just want to share it with you. My fastback has the interior decor option.
I know that the gas tank has been replaced over the years, but they took there time for laying back the underlayment.
You can clearly see the plastic layer at one side and at the other side the jute backing. At that side there is a top layer of paper.
Have all a great sunday.
Kind regards,
Jeroen
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Fastback GTA
built on 01/12/1967

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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 08:42:31 AM »
Thanks for sharing Jeroen.  What you have is exactly what I had on mine, in both material characteristics and size (coverage).
John
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 10:20:20 AM »
Hello John,
Thanks for your answer. Glad that I am not the only one  ;)
Jeroen
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 04:36:25 PM »
As I am taking a part of my trunk under restoration, I found this topic when searching as much information as I can concerning correct trunk layout...
When I removed the protection carpet (it is just a rug  :o) I found an underlayment that looks very old  ;D.
Is it original or not, that I let the specialist to decide.
I just want to share it with you. My fastback has the interior decor option.
I know that the gas tank has been replaced over the years, but they took there time for laying back the underlayment.
You can clearly see the plastic layer at one side and at the other side the jute backing. At that side there is a top layer of paper.
Have all a great sunday.
Kind regards,
Jeroen
Jeroen,that looks like a typical SJ style underlayment. not sure about other plant usage . What plant was the car built?
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2015, 05:37:18 PM »
Good evening Bob,

My car was built in San Jose, built on 01/12/67.
I do have another question about the underlayment...
The underlayment inside (=interior) my car was built up like this :
- layer cotton/needled ?
- tar
- top was craftpaper
and then there was a 'layer' of jute fabric and on top the carpet.
But in the trunk there is (on my car)/
- layer of jute fabric
- tar
- top also crafpaper
(so no layer of cotton?)
Due to risk of fire (?) because it lays on top of the gas tank?
Thanks for clearing this out for me (just out of curiosity  :))
Kind regards,
Jeroen 
San Jose 7R02C1708xx
Fastback GTA
built on 01/12/1967

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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 06:03:28 PM »
Good evening Bob,

My car was built in San Jose, built on 01/12/67.
I do have another question about the underlayment...
The underlayment inside (=interior) my car was built up like this :
- layer cotton/needled ?
- tar
- top was craftpaper
and then there was a 'layer' of jute fabric and on top the carpet.
But in the trunk there is (on my car)/
- layer of jute fabric
- tar
- top also crafpaper
(so no layer of cotton?)
Due to risk of fire (?) because it lays on top of the gas tank?
Thanks for clearing this out for me (just out of curiosity  :))
Kind regards,
Jeroen
No cotton. The clear plastic side of the underlayment is placed down and the paper side up typically. The same typically goes for inside . The extra material I think you are referring to on the inside is that the carpet typically had sections of jute padding material attached to the bottom side  . It was used going over the tunnel but not under the entire carpet. It sounds like you have extra material in the mix.
Bob Gaines,Shelby enthusiast, Shelby collector , Shelby concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2015, 07:16:56 PM »
Agree with Bob on the layer of jute attached to the bottom of the original carpet in areas. Typically missing on the seat riser sections and up towards the rear seat on many years and models


At the bottom half of the picture on the right you''ll see the upper jute payer has become detached from the carpet but on the upper its still attached. Below you can make out the darker composite jute underlayment.  In other sections you can see where no layers were present or just the carpet jute was


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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2019, 08:56:02 AM »
No cotton. The clear plastic side of the underlayment is placed down and the paper side up typically. The same typically goes for inside . The extra material I think you are referring to on the inside is that the carpet typically had sections of jute padding material attached to the bottom side  . It was used going over the tunnel but not under the entire carpet. It sounds like you have extra material in the mix.

I just recieved my new "ACC" branded underlayment and was surprised how nice it looked to what I thought as what the factory did for 67's & 68's but once I laid it in, was ( like always it seems) surprised that they would do it wrong.

If I understand (and looking at Jeroen's example), the shiney side should go down.

Why, oh why do they get so da#@ close and yet so far away. :(
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2005 (04/05) GT Premium Convertible, Windveil Blue, Parchment Top w/Med. Parchment interior,  Roush Body Appointments

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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2019, 06:55:18 PM »
I just received my new "ACC" branded underlayment and was surprised how nice it looked to what I thought as what the factory did for 67's & 68's but once I laid it in, was ( like always it seems) surprised that they would do it wrong.

If I understand (and looking at Jeroen's example), the shiney side should go down.

Why, oh why do they get so da#@ close and yet so far away. :(

So they made the shinny version?

As we discovered when we were making underlayment for 69's there were at least three versions and usage was often dependent on plant and time period.

Personally have not see the version with the shinny or thin plastic top/bottom used often at San Jose. Much more often paper finish on both sides or at least more visible - installed paper up
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2019, 06:21:46 PM »
So they made the shinny version?
...Personally have not see the version with the shinny or thin plastic top/bottom used often at San Jose. Much more often paper finish on both sides or at least more visible - installed paper up

What do you make of Jeroen's 1/12/67 San Jose example?
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2019, 11:26:10 PM »
My 11/16/66 SJ standard interior coupe has tank overlay like Jeroen's.  Shiny side down.  Same as overlay over the rear axle tunnel, as well as  pieces under carpet.
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Re: 67 interior decor trunk underlayment
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2019, 01:53:53 AM »
What do you make of Jeroen's 1/12/67 San Jose example?

Have no reason to question its presence or his findings. Looks like his example lacks the thick center brown layer of jute we see used under the carpet. Similar to what we saw used for a time period in 65 and 66 San Jose.

IMHO suggests that multiple suppliers with different produces supplied San Jose during 67 production. Not a surprise. Did post some pictures of an all jute version in reply #13 so we now have three. 

I do think we have enough examples to suggest that the gas tank cover/underlayment was not limited to the decor or deluxe interior only.

Since this is a 4 year old thread maybe I should go through and post some additional examples as I'm sure there is more to discover with more examples. More examples may produce a pattern - just maybe
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