Topic: Original 1965 mustang starter solenoid

[65fastbk]

Hi,

Looking to find an original starter solenoid for my July 1965 sj built car.
It's suppose to be a rectangular fomoco w/ 2701966 on the top? Brown or black body?  Is there a way to tell a repro from an original?

Thx

[rockhouse66]

Here is an original (black body BTW), and I have a picture of this side by side with a new repro somewhere and they are certainly different.  I would love to find one of these NOS as well - good luck with your search!

[J_Speegle]

Black body for your car.

Haven't looked at repos to compare - normally just get an original. Believe some had figured out (purchased a rivet tool) how to remove and replace the large center rivet, so that the mount could be removed and replated. Normally all the is visually poor on originals

[rockhouse66]

Here are the repro solenoid and an original side by side.  The repro also has the felt pad on the bottom, which it should not.

[65fastbk]

Thanks for the pic!  Were is the felt pad, at the bottom of the unit?  Were the finishes on the originals grainy, there are brown raised specs in the one I have, not to smooth, I will post some pics.

Thx!

[J_Speegle]

Thanks for the pic!  Were is the felt pad, at the bottom of the unit?  Were the finishes on the originals grainy, there are brown raised specs in the one I have, not to smooth, I will post some pics.

As far as texture of the surface on some of the brown and early black ones the individual fibers can be felt with a finger on others they are very smooth. Miht be a different vendor, batch of material or other production difference



Here is a shot of an early brown style bottom and a 66 - up with the vent and felt filter

[65fastbk]

Great pics!  I don't have felt at the bottom of mine here are a few pics...Not sure if this is a  early or late one, it has brown flakes (bumpy, looks like rust) around it but was originally black

Whats the best way to clean it up? Does anyone restore these?

[fast66]

When was the ellips Ford logo changed to the rectangular logo?
thanks,
Claes

[J_Speegle]

When was the ellips Ford logo changed to the rectangular logo?

Current understanding is the change from the oval to the block FoMoCo design was during 65 production

There are a bunch of early styles they used including the ones marked

2701966
C4AF11450A (with Autolite & REPCO)
C6AF-11450-A (with Autolite & RBM)  - have one with the "texture" 65fastbk was showing

Then the later C7AF-11450-A1 (with Autolite & RBM)

One provider produced these early upright styes with a plastic bottom using a couple of different engineering numbers

Started putting an article for the site together a couple of years back - got stalled with some other efforts

[NEFaurora]

Yes, I have seen those with the Black Plastic bottoms...Very weird...and not very common..

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Tony K.