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65 Coupe Headliner
« on: September 23, 2013, 01:31:47 PM »
I have read conflicting information concerning the color of the headliner used in the base model coupe. I have a Coupe that was built in January 1965 with a standard Blue Interior. I have read that the Headliner used was White and also that it was a Light Blue. Does anyone know what the correct Liner should be?

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Ray
« Last Edit: September 24, 2013, 09:21:46 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Headliner
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 01:34:21 PM »
I found light blue in a Jan '65 K fastback built at Dearborn.  I think either light blue or white would be find.  Was there any original material left or do you have the original sun visors?
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Re: Headliner
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 07:15:12 PM »
As late as July 65, it seems Metuchen was still using white headliners, as my car has the standard blue interior and white headliner.
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Re: Headliner
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 01:39:41 PM »
I had read that the Fastback Liners were color keyed to the interior but that the Coupe's were white. I found some of the original headliner underneath a replacement headliner but has faded to the point that I can't tell for sure. The Visors are light to pale blue but don't know if they were originally keyed to the Liner or the Interior. I appreciate the input and am leaning toward white being correct; now I just need to find out what the Viser Color would have been. Thanks
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Re: Headliner
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 01:52:42 PM »
If the visors are light blue, then I'm betting the headliner was the same.  There were colored coupe headliners being used around this time and a little earlier. 
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 01:09:10 PM »
  What would you say about the early 64 1/2's  cars that all had white headliners? Would they have white sunvisors or colored to match the interior color?? My headliner and sunvisors were also replaced with black, (it is a standard black interior), but remnants of the white headliner were under the windshield gasket. Sorry if its a little off the original topic ;D
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 01:11:58 PM »
My January 65 build Dearborn coupe has black standard interior and a white headliner.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 01:34:09 PM »
  What would you say about the early 64 1/2's  cars that all had white headliners? Would they have white sunvisors or colored to match the interior color?? My headliner and sunvisors were also replaced with black, (it is a standard black interior), but remnants of the white headliner were under the windshield gasket. Sorry if its a little off the original topic ;D

Visor color would normally match the headliner color on a coupe/fastback.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 09:46:31 PM »
Thanks for everyone's responses to my question. I found some information in a book dedicated to 1964-1/2 through 1966 Mustangs that confirmed for me that all 1964-1/2 and 1965 Coupe's came with White Headliners and White Visors to match; apparently done to make the interior appear more roomy. Convertible Visors matched the Upholstery Color; the Fastback unfortunately was unclear although all of the photos showed the Liners and Visors Color Keyed to the interior.

Anyway, thanks again.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 09:54:48 PM »
Hmmm.  I had a 65GT Coupe back in the late 60's to mid 70's with a black headliner and black interior.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2013, 12:18:50 AM »
I wonder if the GT's had different interior styling? I'll look through the GT section of the book, I was looking at the standard coupe spec's.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2013, 07:05:50 AM »
I would never make the blanket statement that all 64.5-65 coupes had white headliners.  As stated previously, the colored headliners first started appearing around Dec 64/Jan 65.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2013, 09:33:41 AM »
As a side note, I'll also mention that I've seen some early convertibles with black sunvisors even though the interior color was white with black appointments (meaning white interior with black carpet and dash pad).

I agree though that in coupe and fastbacks the sunvisors usually (maybe always) match the headliners.

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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2013, 03:23:34 PM »
My apologies...poorly chosen, jumped the gun wording...let me clarify. Per the publication, Collector's Originality Guide - Mustang 1964-1/2-1966 by Colin Date; MBI Publishing Company, Copyright 2002, 2009 he states on page 46 that,

"All major items of the Mustang's interior are color-keyed to the wide choice of upholstery colors. The sun visors and the headlining in the hardtop are of white textured vinyl which emphasizes the spaciousness of the interior"

Bottom line is that, apparently there are any number of non-white examples that makes the authors statement somewhat cavalier and subject to misinterpretation. In my case because I did find original white headliner under the replacement and that I discovered from the previous owner just this morning that they had replaced the old "white" visors, is good enough for me to go ahead and use white.

Thanks all.
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Re: 65 Coupe Headliner
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2013, 04:57:28 PM »
My apologies...poorly chosen, jumped the gun wording...let me clarify. Per the publication, Collector's Originality Guide - Mustang 1964-1/2-1966 by Colin Date; MBI Publishing Company, Copyright 2002, 2009 he states on page 46 that,

"All major items of the Mustang's interior are color-keyed to the wide choice of upholstery colors. The sun visors and the headlining in the hardtop are of white textured vinyl which emphasizes the spaciousness of the interior"

Bottom line is that, apparently there are any number of non-white examples that makes the authors statement somewhat cavalier and subject to misinterpretation. In my case because I did find original white headliner under the replacement and that I discovered from the previous owner just this morning that they had replaced the old "white" visors, is good enough for me to go ahead and use white.

Thanks all.

I think the source of that information was Ford's 65 Mustang Illustrated Facts book (picture below), which we all know is of questionable authority due to running changes during the model year.  Having said that, my experience is that most 65 coupes seem to have white headliners, including my July 65 Metuchen coupe with standard blue interior.
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