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Offline Oz390

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What's the "B" for...
« on: August 20, 2013, 06:52:56 AM »
Repainting my '68 Cal Special, May build.  Found this today, first chalk mark noted in disassembly.

8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2013, 10:08:33 PM »
I've seen 4 different markings in that area on 68 San Jose front cross member. Currently my best guess is that it identified PS cars during the second half of production at that plant

Not sure why they changed to the use of the "B" -
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 06:21:16 AM »
Makes sense... PS car.

Thanks!
8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

Offline 68OrangeCrate

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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 12:19:34 AM »
Hey Oz...

I have the same "B" on the the GT/CS I'm restoring....  What have you decided to do with that "B".  I'm trying to figure out how to preserve the original mark on my car.

Mike
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 12:34:13 AM »
Hey Oz...

I have the same "B" on the the GT/CS I'm restoring....  What have you decided to do with that "B".  I'm trying to figure out how to preserve the original mark on my car.

Since it's a fall built San Jose car - does it have power steering?   I'm guessing it does ;)
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 11:45:26 AM »
Hey Oz...

I have the same "B" on the the GT/CS I'm restoring....  What have you decided to do with that "B".  I'm trying to figure out how to preserve the original mark on my car.

Mike

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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 01:15:18 PM »
As a matter of fact, it does Jeff.  Thanks for asking! ;D

Good to meet you Mr. Jewell (albeit on-line!).  My car is registered through the GT/CS web site.  In fact, I became aware of the registry through Arlie Moses who happens to be a neighbor of mine!

Is this a fantastic forum, or what?!

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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 03:46:56 PM »
My May/June build SJ '68 also has the B (located on Driver's side), and has PS.    I don't have any pictures. When I first found it years ago, I was not sure if it was a B or an 8 as the way it was written. To view it I had to use a mirror so I don't know if I could get a good picture of it.
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 07:44:53 PM »
As a matter of fact, it does Jeff.  Thanks for asking! ;D

My current belief is that the "B" = PS on spring San Jose built 68's 
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 11:29:46 PM »
What are your thoughts on trying to preserve the original build mark, Jeff.  I started stripping this car down before realizing that I might, actually, do a concourse restoration.  That's the only chalk-mark I've found thus far (I've been documenting paint marks).  Is there a best way to keep the original mark?
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2014, 12:52:50 AM »
If you're doing a complete restoration, the bet thing is to take pics and reproduce the marking after paint.  It's a relatively easy thing, looks like yellow markal stick.
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2014, 09:22:09 PM »
+1..... I took pics of an "F"and an"8" on the radiator support behind H'light buckets facing outwards toward the grille and also took pics of a "224" on the lower radiator support ( approx. where his yellow "B" is). Then duplicated them as close to possible when restoring. They turned out really well. I used the Markal paint markers.

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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2014, 12:42:49 AM »
Many use tracing paper to trance over the exact original mark so that the reproduction of them is as close as possible. Not everyone is good at doing it free hand


+1..... I took pics of an "F"and an"8" on the radiator support behind H'light buckets facing outwards toward the grille and also took pics of a "224" on the lower radiator support ( approx. where his yellow "B" is). Then duplicated them as close to possible when restoring. They turned out really well. I used the Markal paint markers.

For other readers we should mention that the marks you mention are not from a 68 ;)
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2014, 11:48:26 AM »
Great guys..... I'm going to get some tracing paper and markers... 8)
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Re: What's the "B" for...
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 11:06:58 AM »
Many use tracing paper to trance over the exact original mark so that the reproduction of them is as close as possible. Not everyone is good at doing it free hand


For other readers we should mention that the marks you mention are not from a 68 ;)
Lol....I'm sure anyone reading with a little sense would figure that out. Look closely, I agreed with Charles with a +1, and was putting my input in that yes, that is a great way of doing it, with markal. Just expressing Markal is the way to go.