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Offline 69cobrajetrugae2

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69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« on: May 12, 2013, 02:26:14 AM »
Hi.  Here is the link to the Hurst shifter in question.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTc-4AVN4OY&feature=youtu.be

 My car was born June 6 1969.  I know that the hurst shifter was not available intill the 1970 model year.  The car does have a Rug AE2 transmission which was installed in the boss 429's, which did have the hurst shifter, according to some sources.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.  Do I own a freak show or did someone change out the shifter at some point? Thank you in advance for your help.

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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 03:11:41 AM »
I have a factory Hurst shifter in my 1969 Cougar XR7 SCJ, but I made the custom mounting plate and installed it myself.
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1969 Cobra Jet Stock Hurst Shifter?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 06:20:34 PM »
Hi.  Here is the link to the Hurst shifter in question.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTc-4AVN4OY&feature=youtu.be

 My car was born June 6 1969 in San Jose and delivered to Spokane Wa.  I know that it is an accepted fact that the hurst shifter was not available intil the 1970 model year.  The car does have a Rug AE2 transmission which may have been installed in the 69 boss 429's and Shelby KR500's according to some sources, which in addition, may have had the Hurst Shifter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.  Was my car born with the Hurst Shifter or did someone change out the Ford shifter at some point? Thank you  very much in advance for your assistance.

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Re: 1969 Cobra Jet Stock Hurst Shifter?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 07:40:37 PM »
I'm going to say it was changed out at some point. For the record KRs never came with AE2 or Hurst
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 08:18:08 PM »
Hello

Well I guess you did as good as you could UNDER THE CAR !!!

I didn't see that it is a "FORD Hurst" - as I was look for the reverse light tang !   But seeing the THREADED RODS - my guess it is a Hurst Competition Plus (SPeed shop) unit .

I maybe wrong - others may comment.

All I know is dealing with the Ford shifter on my SCJ this weekend - I wish I had a Hurst (just to use)! My Boss doesn't give me the fits of the Stock Ford one !

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Re: 1969 Cobra Jet Stock Hurst Shifter?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 08:28:34 PM »
+1 Changed out - Very very common practice

Moving the post since it did not relate to judging ;)
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Re: 1969 Cobra Jet Stock Hurst Shifter?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 08:29:09 PM »
Thanks Tlea.  I was told that the Ford Factory Hurst Shifter was used behind the Boss 429 and that the Ford Hurst shifter arm is held in place by a release pin.  One of the pics shows what looks like that release pin.

 Is it  possible that the San Jose plant ran out of the Ford shifters that day and installed the Hurst from the soon to be built 1970 mustangs?

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Re: 1969 Cobra Jet Stock Hurst Shifter?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 08:34:06 PM »
...........Is it  possible that the San Jose plant ran out of the Ford shifters that day and installed the Hurst from the soon to be built 1970 mustangs?

Not really - IMHO  and they would not have started (typically) the assembly plants with the next years parts (just no room) before the retooling period. Fir4st part of June is out a fair amount of days from the end of production and if they did then we would have thousands of examples of the same small block and big blocks ;)

Much more likely just a PO thing
« Last Edit: May 12, 2013, 08:36:01 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 12:48:47 PM »
Hi 69cobrajetrugae2, Just to confirm what everyone else said, with out a doubt, your shifter is an aftermarket (speed shop) addition. The factory 1970 shifter uses a different style of handle mounting (no bolt), slotted, not threaded rods, no stop bolts, and a different style of reverse light switch and bracket. However, All the features of your shifter are exactly the way an aftermarket hurst competition plus shifter was (still is) supplied.  Just FYI, John

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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 08:00:17 PM »
Thank you very much for answering my question, you guys have been great! 

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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2021, 09:13:27 PM »
Hello

Well I guess you did as good as you could UNDER THE CAR !!!

I didn't see that it is a "FORD Hurst" - as I was look for the reverse light tang !   But seeing the THREADED RODS - my guess it is a Hurst Competition Plus (SPeed shop) unit .

I maybe wrong - others may comment.

All I know is dealing with the Ford shifter on my SCJ this weekend - I wish I had a Hurst (just to use)! My Boss doesn't give me the fits of the Stock Ford one !

Mark



And 8 years latter I'm still dealing this this 69 shifter
 CAll into Bill Healy and thinking of this. http://4speedtoploaders.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/hurstcompplus.html
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2021, 01:03:26 AM »
https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=24809.msg154256#msg154256

Don't swap it out if you want the best driving experience, there's a reason for the switch to Hurst in 70
It can look 69 correct from in the cabin as pointed out in the link though
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2021, 08:37:25 AM »
I prefer the Autolite shifter so my opinion differs from the comment above. I think Ford based their decision more on cost than practicality or function. If you have ever tried parallel parking one of these then you realize why the Autolite shift pattern is so good.


Plus the Autolite is what the car came with originally - if it were a '70 Mustang (not Shelby) I would be saying you need to rebuild the Hurst unit and put up with it.
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2021, 04:38:26 PM »
And 8 years latter I'm still dealing this this 69 shifter
 CAll into Bill Healy and thinking of this. http://4speedtoploaders.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/hurstcompplus.html

Guess you could go 5 speed also but given the site and the focus would not be suggested. Choose to stay with the factory for my cars but I'm not racing any of them currently
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Re: 69 mustang cobra jet factory installed Hurst shifter?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2021, 07:13:27 PM »
And then you'd use a TKX.

Oops. Wrong site. ;)
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