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Offline 69cobrajetrugae2

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69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« on: April 27, 2013, 02:51:26 PM »
Thank you very much for your replies to my last post.  I have another question.

 This 69 super cobra jet has the automatic and 4.30 axle.  An expert looked at the car for a client and said that the block was not original.  The car was born on 11-1-68.  There are no numbers on the passenger side block, where you would see a "C6ME" or other number.  The date code near the filter housing is _D30. The first letter is not readable.  The car has extensive documention, build sheet, window sticker, marti, ect. which all list it as a drag pack cobra jet.  The crank damper appears to be correct. The engine bay looks numbers matching, somebody went to a lot of expense to make it right.


 Did the blocks destined for the super assembly line typically have no block numbers or does the oil pan have to be removed to find the third webbing.  How would a judge determine if the block is correct?  Please advise.

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 07:00:50 PM »
Thank you very much for your replies to my last post.  I have another question.

 This 69 super cobra jet has the automatic and 4.30 axle.  An expert looked at the car for a client and said that the block was not original.  The car was born on 11-1-68.  There are no numbers on the passenger side block, where you would see a "C6ME" or other number.  The date code near the filter housing is _D30. The first letter is not readable.  The car has extensive documention, build sheet, window sticker, marti, ect. which all list it as a drag pack cobra jet.  The crank damper appears to be correct. The engine bay looks numbers matching, somebody went to a lot of expense to make it right.

Not sure what "the engine bay looks number matching" means. They either are or are not - lots and lots of parts in there to check ;)


Allot of these cars saw heavy usage (that's often why they were purcahsed) and engines didn't always make it :(


 
Did the blocks destined for the super assembly line typically have no block numbers or does the oil pan have to be removed to find the third webbing.

They would have all the "regular" numbers and stampings plus some additional ones normally


 
How would a judge determine if the block is correct?  Please advise.

In a class that requires the numbers to match they would look for the casting numbers, date code and vin... then compare those with other block features that either match or don't match what would be expected for a 428CJ

In the classes where number matching is not required some major casting numbers are confirmed for the door tag confirmation section of the sheet. Organizations don't want cars with different colors, engines and transmissions (auto to four speed for example) taking home top prize ;)


PS - subject was moved since it seemed to be more  about numbers and features than judging :)
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Offline specialed

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 10:13:18 AM »
did you check assembly date?

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 06:08:48 PM »
moved where? saw it in MCA section and was moved to here? then where? everything gets moved at least once it seems

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 08:15:06 PM »
moved where? saw it in MCA section and was moved to here? then where? everything gets moved at least once it seems
It was there now it here  were it fits better ;)

Things get rearranged to they are easier for others following later
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Offline 7Lscjracer

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 11:34:00 PM »
Have you seen the info here?

http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-block
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 12:01:18 AM »
Have you seen the info here?
http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-block

Thanks for posting (and reminding us - Scott will appreciate ;)   the excellent info there
Jeff Speegle

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Offline SCJSTU

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Re: 69 SUPER COBRA JET BLOCK ID
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 07:56:06 AM »
What are other date codes on engine parts?
Intake?
Pull valve covers check dates......
If those dates don't line up good indicator motor has lots of parts swapped
1969 Shelby GT350 convertible  4spd-AC built 1-27-69
1967 Mustang S-Code 4-speed built Jan 1967 non therm
1956 Ford F100 Big Window 392 Hemi

1961 Falcon 2 Door Station Wagon 302V8
2004 Mach 1 Azure Blue