Topic: Early 64.5/65 Front Springs

[CharlesTurner]

I would - and use a rattle can to do that one rather than a brush - like what will be used for the others

I think what he was asking is if he should apply a white stripe to the spring that doesn't have one.  Guess I would have to say no as the white stripe might not be an identifier, but rather a QC check mark or similar.

[J_Speegle]

Based on other sets and the condition of the one with the white (condition of the white) I would add it to the other during restoration. Since it was sprayed on its possible that it just was not applied as heavy/thick as the other spring and didn't last through the years.

Normally if one had it (on a specific car) then the other one normally shows some sign of the white.



Just my experience

[petersixtfive]

Jeff
I was under the belief that the white stripe 64 1/2 to 66 springs that it identified the spring not being to correct spec ie under or over a specific rating
Any other thoughts on this, as only one of mine had the white stripe applied in addition to the brown stripe on each
All appeared to have been painted on with a brush
Cheers

[CharlesTurner]

I was under the belief that the white stripe 64 1/2 to 66 springs that it identified the spring not being to correct spec ie under or over a specific rating
Any other thoughts on this, as only one of mine had the white stripe applied in addition to the brown stripe on each
All appeared to have been painted on with a brush

I've heard that also, that it wasn't always an identifier.

[J_Speegle]

Jeff
I was under the belief that the white stripe 64 1/2 to 66 springs that it identified the spring not being to correct spec ie under or over a specific rating
Any other thoughts on this, as only one of mine had the white stripe applied in addition to the brown stripe on each

Correct - well at least its correct buy todays understanding - written it that way in many posts That is why it makes sense IMHO that Ford workers would have placed two on a car so that the variation would match

Don't believe I've ever seen white used as an identifying color used on springs (buildsheets and such) so that were would be no confusion with the over/under marking I would guess

All appeared to have been painted on with a brush

Thanks - just like leaf springs we find them spray or brush depending on time period. Just have never seen or heard of the white in spray in the dozens of ones I've found or on cars I own. Currently have one such car and the spray is a very different look than the brush stripes. Have had light colored brushed stripes that looked white until the top layer was removed then they were found to be another color -

[DM_1964]

Ok, the springs we're definitely painted, I applied some paint stripper and it started to bubble.
The one markings on the one spring look certain they were applied by brush, I'd lean toward Charles's explanation that they were probably a QC marking, as the other sping has no trace of white on it at all...

[J_Speegle]

Ok, the springs we're definitely painted, I applied some paint stripper and it started to bubble.
The one markings on the one spring look certain they were applied by brush, I'd lean toward Charles's explanation that they were probably a QC marking, as the other sping has no trace of white on it at all...

Does looked (white) brushed in the picture

The Ford engineer (believe that was his title) never reported when they started using the white for the "out of range" marking

Guess it would be possible that in 64 they were using white for something other than that

Thanks for testing the finish - first one we've got a reaction to, Guessing that its bare metal - not black under the stripped black paint the the marking stripes have black under them all also

We do see service replacements painted black so that are less likely to rust on the shelf but not suggesting that - just sharing that detail

[DM_1964]

Thanks for testing the finish - first one we've got a reaction to, Guessing that its bare metal - not black under the stripped black paint the the marking stripes have black under them all also

No problems Jeff, more than happy to confirm that.

Not to rock the boat by attempting to cut corners but I want to coat them in a matte clear to preserve the 50+ year old markings... thoughts?

[J_Speegle]

Not to rock the boat by attempting to cut corners but I want to coat them in a matte clear to preserve the 50+ year old markings... thoughts?

If your going to restore the car be aware that some judges may deduct for that choice. If you do it knowing that and are OK with that go ahead. Just be aware.

Given your region, use and the cars exposure is it necessary to coat it to protect it?  Clear may yellow, crack, trap moisture and cause other problems that you can't anticipate at this point.  See owners tape off and refinish the rest of the part but that always looks odd to me.  Maybe a light coat of one of the protective oils might be the direction I would go.

I did do the clears on my Boss 25 or so years ago. It worked on some pieces and not as well on others. This on a car that rarely saw any humidity (others would not classify it as such or much driving.

[DM_1964]

If your going to restore the car be aware that some judges may deduct for that choice. If you do it knowing that and are OK with that go ahead. Just be aware.

I'd be comfortable to take the hit at the moment... but when it comes time to take the hit, may be a different story, a relatively straight forward piece to replace if that ends up being the case.

Given your region, use and the cars exposure is it necessary to coat it to protect it?  Clear may yellow, crack, trap moisture and cause other problems that you can't anticipate at this point.  See owners tape off and refinish the rest of the part but that always looks odd to me.  Maybe a light coat of one of the protective oils might be the direction I would go.

Excellent point, something I didn't think of was how it would hold up, so the protective oils would be better in the long run.

I thought clearing it would stop some of the green paint marks from continuing to flake, not so much the blue markings, seems that were applied with a fresh dip of the brush.