Author Topic: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts  (Read 3087 times)

Offline G Wood

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69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« on: January 20, 2013, 05:10:23 PM »
I am about to put the coil spring covers on my car and I notice that I have two seperate kits from AMK. One is a domed head in a dark (phoshate?) finish and the other is a small bolt with washer attached in a silver finish. Can someone clarify what is the correct nut/bolt for the Dearborn application.
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 09:13:37 PM »
One kit you show is for spring covers, the other is tower brackets. I think you want spring cover bolts. Typically they are silver cad flags with phosphate RBW nuts. Late cars had RSC head markings
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 09:20:16 PM »
Tim:

To confirm, within the engine bay I will have the silver cad heads showing. Maybe my mind is going, I always thought these were a darker color and that is why I asked.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 11:07:49 PM »
Tim:

To confirm, within the engine bay I will have the silver cad heads showing. Maybe my mind is going, I always thought these were a darker color and that is why I asked.



In 69 (unlike earlier years) Dearborn - nuts on the wheel side of the spring covers

When you think spring cover thing fender bolts


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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 12:29:40 AM »
its funny how we are obsessed with bolt head markings, my original bolts for the spring covers had no markings, when i was removing them several were rusted bad and i had to drill one out. since a couple were missing, i just bought the amk kit and used it. I tried using all the original parts i could in the rebuild, but found it was cleaner using amk stuff. just felt like i had to throw that out there.Dearborn 10-20-1969
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 11:10:13 AM »
its funny how we are obsessed with bolt head markings
I dont think its obsession but making the choice. Max's kits often offer one head marking for all plants that year. Based on observations as I noted they can be plant and time specific. max sells the more correct one (flags) but sells it not in the kit. So if I'm spending the money I'd rather have the more correct ones.
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 03:19:58 PM »
thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 03:40:35 PM »
 Cool, bad choice or words, I will keep learning from y'all. Im obsessed though. Is it possible that my originals had no markingss on the head? Doesn't matter now, but out of curiosity sake, is there a book?
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 10:28:25 PM »
................. is there a book?


Nope - too many possible differences between plants, time periods and such. That's why its a bit more difficult to restore these cars than let's say Corvette's ;)


also we continue to learn and discover new details - making anything that would be published out of date the day or week after it came off the press. This realization was one of the things behind us setting up this site.

The only effort to capture this sort of detail  (though its been discussed/asked for  many times) I've ever seen covered only the engine compartment (without engine ) of one plant for 66's and it was 4 inches thick and never published
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 08:30:52 PM »
I did a quick walk around my wrecking yard today. 1969 Dearborn I found flags, single round depressions, and another that had 5 clock points. San Jose showed still a different bolt. San Jose Cougar production was from Aug 68-Nov 68 only.
Like was mentioned earlier, different suppliers of bolts were used (or at least they were marked differently for identification purposes). AMK supplies hardware with markings like was found on these cars at some snapshot point in time.

I found similar markings on bolt heads, when looking for specific hinge bolts for that car Tim is working on.
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Re: 69 Dearborn Coil Spring Cover Bolts
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 10:23:08 PM »
single round depression is what mine were, thanks
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