Topic: Red Dyed Hardware

[app01]

1970 May Dearborn built B2.

I came across the list of Red Dyed hardware below searching the archives and wanted to find out  what items below are dyed red for my B2.

Also do you use Dykem for the dying?

Thanks,
Tony


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Red dyed hardware :
Strut rod outer nuts
Steering box mounting
idler arm mounting
Steering coupling bolts
Strut rod to control arm nuts
Lower a arm eccentric nuts
Upper a arm attaching nuts
PS cylinder frame bracket hardware
Pumpkin nuts
U bolts nuts
Seat belt hardware

[TLea]

I think rear strut rod nuts as well also
pinion arm nut/washer
seat track to seat bolts
seat attaching nuts
rear seat mounting screws (vert/coupe)
Spindle bolts/washers

[J_Speegle]

Spindle bolts/washers

  (guess I'm slow one today


On 69's (may apply to 70's) found the fastback rear seat hinge bolts and the rear seat latch screws (to the body on fold downs)  were also dyed

[app01]

Thanks Tim and Jeff.

Have a great Christmas.

[svo2scj]

E brake cable threaded end when it goes though the body support tab by the mufflers.

Mark

[J_Speegle]

Forgot the flex rear brake line to floor bracket (the flat U shaped push in retainer)  Found it red dyed on a number of Dearborn and San Jose 69s

[Andrew@MagMustangs]

I'm not an expert on finishes or anything, but the seat track to seat bolts seem to be Red Anodized not red dyed. They have a bright metal look to the red instead of the dyed red like steering box bolts and such. Also the full bolt is colored, not just the head which seems typical to me on the suspension bolt heads. Please discuss.

[J_Speegle]

I'm not an expert on finishes or anything, but the seat track to seat bolts seem to be Red Anodized not red dyed. They have a bright metal look to the red instead of the dyed red like steering box bolts and such.

Not sure what seat belt bolts your referring to on a 70. The nuts are dyed - believe those are part of the group of parts that were tested by the lab

As far as correct terms can steel be anodized?? Though the process was only compatible with certain metals

Also the full bolt is colored, not just the head which seems typical to me on the suspension bolt heads. Please discuss.

Suspension bolts (like the ones for the steering box) were in my experience completely dyed from one end to the other. Normally the only part still slowing the coloration  is that section protected in the frame

[TLea]

Both are red dyed. When a clear zinc fastener like seat nut is red dyed it will take on a completely different appearance that a phosphated one like a steering box bolt

[Andrew@MagMustangs]

I'm referring to the 6 point bolt that mounts the seat tracks to the seat frame. They have a brighter red finish then the darker red color of the seat track to floor nuts. Is that just because of the initial plating before dye?

[J_Speegle]

I'm referring to the 6 point bolt that mounts the seat tracks to the seat frame. They have a brighter red finish then the darker red color of the seat track to floor nuts. Is that just because of the initial plating before dye?

The under laying surface, plating and condition will change the look of the final produce. The nuts look to have something like phosphate on them first thing the seat track bolts look like they might be zinc first - would have to test them to be sure. Not easy to get access to those machines often

[Bob Gaines]

Some of the seat belt bolts are zinc dichromate under the red same with the rear end nuts. As noted It gives different appearance compared to the zinc phosphate. The dye will come off with certain solvents leaving the underlying finish.

[TLea]

The under laying surface, plating and condition will change the look of the final produce. The nuts look to have something like phosphate on them first thing the seat track bolts look like they might be zinc first - would have to test them to be sure. Not easy to get access to those machines often

Ive done the "quick and easy" zinc test. If you put a zinc plated (or cad) piece in muratic acid it will bubble as the plating is dissolved

[craig429]

Is Tony correct that Dykem is used for the dying?

[J_Speegle]

Is Tony correct that Dykem is used for the dying?

 Need to look at the bottle of stuff I've used (goes a long way) for ten years.  Is a Dykem product. Believe its a machinist dye for layout - at least that's what I use for the blue dyed stuff


As a general note to others - what is dyed with the red dye varies so DON"T expect what is dyed on one car to be the same as yours -so remember to compare the same years and assembly plants when you do your homework.