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Which Pump?
« on: November 12, 2012, 06:44:51 PM »
C8AE-J or C8OE-D Water Pump for 68 302 4V? All the Date Codes on the Motor are 7M. December, 1967
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2012, 07:25:54 PM »
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2012, 08:27:43 PM »
Perfect! Thanks Tim! The water pump is the only non-original piece on this 60K original mile J-Code. 
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 08:51:49 AM »
I've never seen the C8 H on a J code but they were used on 69 Boss 302s
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 03:54:12 PM »
C8AE-J or C8OE-D Water Pump for 68 302 4V? All the Date Codes on the Motor are 7M. December, 1967
Per Bob Mannel's book, "Mustang and Ford Small Block V8", the casting number should be C8OE-D, and his disclaimer states that C8AE-J is a replacement pump (Appen E, pg E-6). This caught my eye as I have a rebuilt pump on the shelf with casting C8OE-D. I can't find a traditional date code on it.
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2012, 06:48:22 PM »
I have versions of both of these here at work. The C8AE-J has an additional drilled and tapped hole in the one boss (on the one I have here).
The difference between C6OE-A and C8OE-D is the size of the weep hole. 1968 is larger.
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 11:07:41 PM »
I don't usually find date codes on the pumps either, although I'm pretty sure I have seen some with date codes, not necessarily C8- pumps, but most of them I have had weren't dated. So, a Non Dated pump would be fine for me as long as it is the Factory Correct Pump.

I would like to make sure I source the Factory Correct Pump for this motor, it might eventually be Concours Judged. Its the only thing besides a Carb that is not correct. The Motor had an 85-86 5.0 Holley Carb on it. I got rid of that and would like to also find a correct carb but thats a Needle in a Haystack kinda thing.  ;)

I also posted a wanted ad for a pump, so if you have one available then please PM me.
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 12:03:49 AM »
Per Bob Mannel's book, "Mustang and Ford Small Block V8", the casting number should be C8OE-D, and his disclaimer states that C8AE-J is a replacement pump
I had the original pump off my 350 rebuilt and it is a J. Also have another J code here thats never been apart and its a J
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2012, 09:22:40 PM »
I have 2 J pump cores and have read somewhere that the C8AE-J were for A/C cars. Anyone else ever heard or read this? On date codes, I don't think any C6 or C80E-D had cast date codes.

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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2012, 10:54:35 PM »
I was thinking along those lines also. Tim, are either of yours from A/C cars?
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Re: Which Pump?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 09:21:37 PM »
I searched this old thread for information on C8AE-J water pump. I was working on a 68 J code engine today and noticed that the heater hose port on it has a larger diameter tube on it than the other models of water pumps I have seen. May be it is a higher volume pump than the other and that is why it was used on AC cars and extra cooling car. Just a thought