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Offline BuckeyeDemon

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Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« on: January 11, 2010, 09:36:52 PM »
i purchased an original tooled shaker seal. 

however it slopes towards the back of the shaker.

you can see in this picture that it exposes more of the shaker spacer plate towards the back.  the original doesn't seem to do that.

anyone have any experience with this?




here you can see it slope down on the spacer plate towards the back (left side of picture is the back).



here is the original. hard to flex the side and take a picture.  it seems the original has a consistent height from the front to back.



here is the tooling part.  it slopes from the front to the back.

VIN: 9F02M178303
Build Date: March 31, 1969
1969 Mach 1, Candyapple Red, 351W 4V

Offline Brian Conway

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Re: Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 03:23:10 PM »
Resurrecting this post from 2010 because of the great photos and explanations.  I have been doing some research on this part because I will need to replace mine soon.  So I have been asking questions here and on a couple of other sites and have not had a lot of interest or input.  Chalk that off to a few things; niche part and nothing else to compare it to.  The one on my car is original and I know what it should look like.  I bought a Carpenter reproduction shaker hood seal as that seems to be the most commonly used.  I assumed, incorrectly, it would be correct.  I have since sent it back asking for a refund. The Carpenter reproduction I got is the same as the one pictured with the slanted edge front to back.  As shown, in the pictures, that seal leaves the spacer plate exposed and is not the original look.  7Lscjracer's seal and my Carpenter part are described as ' FORD Tooling ' parts.  That's just plain BS.  Thanks to this site I have learned how this misleading identification probably came about. 
     So it seems this incorrect part has been around for at least 6 years and is on a few cars.  The owners of those cars can see something doesn't look right but what's to be done ?  This is the only part being made.  All the vendors are selling the Carpenter part with there names on top.  Included are; Drake, Semo and Steele.   I think it is shamefull that this part has been passed off as an original FORD tooling part when it clearly is not.  My rant,  Brian

Oops, Needed to add the 7lscjracer pictures of a Ford Tooling service part.
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Re: Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 05:21:16 PM »
............ My rant,  Brian

Yes too notice that this has been a recent focus by you. Yes it is a shame that either someone messed up or that the reproducers again used (possibly) a service replacement as a guide for a new part.  Did want to thank you for chasing this one down. That is how things are learned and shared with the hobby - an individual takes up a "mission" and dedicates the time and effort to see it through. 
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Re: Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 07:14:53 PM »
i returned mine to NPD and picked one up from I believe it was ford ram air parts (it was years ago, i think Leon was his name)?

he indicated he had one good one left or something like that.  perhaps i got lucky.  i was happy with it.  didn't have the slope.

VIN: 9F02M178303
Build Date: March 31, 1969
1969 Mach 1, Candyapple Red, 351W 4V

Offline 70cj428

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Re: Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 09:38:49 PM »
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the reproducers again used (possibly) a service replacement

I just checked some NOS service parts from 1984, It looks like one side is parallel all the way back, and the side with the drain tube may taper a little bit all the way at the rear near the tab opening, but no where near as bad as the photo of the ford tooling part. The only big issue with these is that the drain hose looks a lot larger than I remember the originals were.

Just FYI, John

Offline Brian Conway

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Re: Ford Tooling Shaker Seal
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 06:14:33 PM »
     I got in touch with Leon at Fordramair.com ,thanks BuckeyeDemon, and ordered another of his 'last one' shaker seals.  I also ordered one from New performance Parts an ebay vendor.  I compared all three seals, my original, Ram Air's and the New Performance part.  Ram air is the one I selected but it was a close call. Both reproduction seals have the wider/taller and straight correct mating surface for the spacer plate.  Both seals are made of a rubber type pliable material and more like the OE seal.  Both have plain drain hoses that are 1/2" OD.  The New Performance seal does not have the C9ZF-9B624  or the FoMoCo logo the Ram Air piece has both.  So the Ram Air seal got the nod and while it was a lot more difficult locating the correct part than it should have been I am quite satisfied with the part, the cost, the installation and the look.
   On another note.  I contacted Carpenter and shared my experience with the inaccuracies of their part and the short story/reply is they are quite satisfied with the authenticity and accuracy of their Ford Tooling reproduction shaker seal and see no reason to investigate further.   Thanks for the interest and help.  Brian
     
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