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Offline mustang65ld

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Upper Control Arm Finish
« on: August 22, 2012, 11:52:55 PM »
Does anyone know if there was a difference in the finish on Upper Control arms from the different factories or even Ford replacement pieces for 1965 and 1966? I have seen ones that were completely natural, completely dipped, and only half dipped in paint.

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 12:20:31 AM »
Does anyone know if there was a difference in the finish on Upper Control arms from the different factories or even Ford replacement pieces for 1965 and 1966? I have seen ones that were completely natural, completely dipped, and only half dipped in paint.
The factory 65/66 units were typical partially dipped regardless of factory from what I have seen .Others may have different observations. I have seen service replacements that were that way . Others service units I have seen were all bare steel and some were bare steel but were black oxide plated which gave the appearance of being completely dipped in paint because they were completely dark.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 12:27:12 AM »
A friend restoring a 66 GT350, got a pair of NOS upper A arms from e-bay. The steel was dark gray, the correct ball joints were riveted with the correct checkerboard pattern, there was no shaft installed and they were not dip painted (I did that myself and installed the shafts). The factory arms were about the same dark gray stamped steel color with the shaft end dipped in semi-gloss black up past the spring saddle mounting holes but before the ball joint area.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 11:56:39 AM »
Should look similar to this, of course there were variations in how far the black dip line was.  These are original control arms that were restored.

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 07:39:09 AM »
Always wondered.... what's the reason/logic behind the partial paint? 

1. make is black "behind" the tire (if someone look hard)
2. paint it, but avoid the ball joint?

And why no paint on the perch?

Always wondered why the kinda lame (IMHO) half-painted look....
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8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 09:51:01 AM »
My guess is to minimize surface rust and maybe the lowers being dipped were an aesthetic thing (can't be seen when looking at the car straight on.)  Ford paid more attention to some of these things than we give them credit for.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 11:33:24 PM »
My guess is to minimize surface rust and maybe the lowers being dipped were an aesthetic thing (can't be seen when looking at the car straight on.)  Ford paid more attention to some of these things than we give them credit for.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 12:55:42 AM »
I ran across this picture from my upper A arm paint exercise last October. The four stacked A arms in front I bead blasted and lightly phosphated, the two A arms behind them are NOS Ford about 20-25 years old with the ball joints properly installed so I didn't bead blast them. You can see the natural finish. There was some surface rust so I used carefully applied steel wool and gun blue to take care of the rust. The four arms I did have darkened somewhat closer to those two NOS arms over time. The blue tape attached is to let me know how deep to dip the arms.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 06:28:36 AM »
Jim,

I NEED 2 for my March 66, Metuchen C-Code.  Got any?
I don't need shafts or BJ's or painted.
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 09:49:38 AM »
I have got some from out west if you need cores

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 07:10:04 PM »
I do need a couple of nice cores.  I think the 66 San Jose' jobs were the same as easterners.

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66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 11:20:16 AM »
While visiting the shop of a well known mustang collector/restorer this was a wall diplay he had for 71-73 front suspension components.  The upper control arms were not dipped in black as I have noted in this thread.  As I do not have original upper control arms to go off of, I purchased the Scott Drake arms and I am considering stripping off the black and going all natural colored.  I am torn between what I have seen on Gold level concourse trailered and what I have seen in this display.  Feedback??
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72 Mach 1, Dearborn, 01/72
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 12/67 (Red)
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 6/68 (White)

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2013, 11:26:21 AM »
65-66 uppers were black dipped, later were natural.
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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2013, 12:03:16 PM »

Interesting 'X' on the UCA.  Here's a similar 'X' on an UCA from a 68 NJ car.

Previous discussions about this from many years ago is that the 'X' is very unusual and could have been an indication of a stop or start point in the line or an indication of a problem that would need attention.

1965 Dearborn Mustang Coupe
Raven Black - Palomino Pony
1967 Dearborn Mustang Conv.
Wimbeldon White - Red
1984 SVO - 2A

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Re: Upper Control Arm Finish
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 10:10:51 AM »
Does anyone do resto on early 65 arms that don't want you to build them a house?