Topic: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations -Hoods

[J_Speegle]

Would more pictures help or just muddy the waters?

No problem, Richard. Thanks for replying.
Can somebody confirm that the hood stamping is near the hood springs area?
And is it possible to find it (them?) when the hood is mounted on the hood springs?

May be filled with primer or filler if work has been done or even a repaint. Never seen them located right where the hood springs attach. Will see if I have a picture or two with the location for a 67 that I can post to help

[priceless]

Probably enough pics already. But, thought I'd throw mine in here.

Metuchen Oct.'66 built. Been in family since '79.

VIN 7T01C1276**

[rodster]

No problem, Richard. Thanks for replying.
Can somebody confirm that the hood stamping is near the hood springs area?
And is it possible to find it (them?) when the hood is mounted on the hood springs?
Thanks,
Jeroen

Here's the location of the hood date code stamping on my 67 Dearborn car.

[67gtasanjose]

Here's the location of the hood date code stamping on my 67 Dearborn car.

Yes, that is where I now have found my date code(s), both hoods I have are in the same location.

My original hood looks like a date code of October 19 (1966), stamped in Chicago(A), 14 days before actual production date 11/02

[rodster]

Great!  Thanks for the update and build date info.

[roddster]

  67 Mustang 7R01S129XXX  Built 10/29/1966.  The hood has a date of 10/17  W  3  Photo attached.  Those two holes have black plastic wire insulators up in them.  Similar to other photos I see here.  Turn signal hood matches the Marti report.  The date was stamped to the rear of the rearward wire hole, about 2 inches in from the rear of the hood.  Seems the dates are stamp whereever they pleased.

[ruppstang]

That is very consistent with my 11-04-66 SJ built 67 GTA. Surprisingly my date stamp is 7-21-W3 The details between yours and match right down to the hood light.
Marty 

[Fastback2013]

As promised on 29/11 : I looked and searched for my stamp.
It was like Jeff said, totally filled with primer and paint.
But I can't figure out the exact date :
The first isn't quite Cristal clear, '1' or '4' is my best guess?
than it is a '20'
The next isn't readable at all 
The last one is a '3'?
The position where I found it was exactly the same as Rodster and 67gtasanjose
Knowing best that this isn't going to help much people further
Kind regards,
Jeroen

[rodster]

Glad you found it.  Guessing it is 12 20 W3.

[Fastback2013]

Thanks for the help Rodster!
Just out of curiosity... but was there a 'logical' way for ordering the sheet metals from company 'x' and putting it together in plant 'Y' ??
For example : did a San José car ordered their metal parts in Michigan but not in New York or vice a verse ??
Or was it first comes, first served

[rodster]

My guess is there was an order in which sheet metal got supplied, but that's a question for the experts.

[67gta289]

Thanks for the help Rodster!
Just out of curiosity... but was there a 'logical' way for ordering the sheet metals from company 'x' and putting it together in plant 'Y' ??
For example : did a San José car ordered their metal parts in Michigan but not in New York or vice a verse ??
Or was it first comes, first served

Keep in mind that assembly plants did not order "sheet" metal, they ordered "stamped" metal in form factors they could use to assemble product.  My understanding is that Ford in the 60's was stamping all their parts, and had stamping plants in Dearborn (at the Rouge), Woodhaven (MI), and Buffalo (NY).  There might have been more.   I have read or found nothing in print in regards to distribution or stamping production practices (i.e. whether stamping was done in batches or virtually continuous).  I suppose that for a lower volume car line (Lincolns, Broncos) the batch process would work well, whereas Mustang stampings (and those with shared unibody parts) might not have stopped.

My neighbor growing up was a plant manager at the Chrysler Sterling Stamping Plant, and will ask him when I see him again.  Practices were (and still are) very similar between the big three.

[J_Speegle]

My guess is there was an order in which sheet metal got supplied, but that's a question for the experts.

There likely was the "norm" IMHO and these become apparent once you've collected and compared allot of data, but it was based on ALLOT of details (time period, plant .....) we don't know and that only a few people who's job it was to get the parts there, did.

We see patterns depending on plant, time of year and suppliers but there could, at times, additional parts supplied from other suppliers based on higher demand or other undocumented at this time, issues.

Some stamping plants supplied just panels whole others seemed to supply panels and sub assemblies - one example would be doors, headers and A pillars

[67gtasanjose]

Dredging up the old topic:

This time to ask about information about hood lamp wiring and related hardware.

1.) There were early and LATE wiring to the hood turn signal lamps. Any known change-over approximate date established yet?

2.) The wiring plastic grommets used on the mid-production, before the "rolled edge" openings but after the externally run harness. These are NOT represented in the assembly manuals for the hood. Does anybody have more information about them? (e.g.
engineering or part number) ~for reference only, the trunk light grommet is C4SB-14603-H, is this possibly the same?

3.) Again, I ask about the number of clips shown across the center of the hood. Some have only 3 while some have 4. I cannot verify a pattern yet two San Jose examples, one a few days before my 11/02/66 example (built 10/29) and one a couple days afterwards (11/04) and BOTH look to have the under hood lamp as well. The differences noted are that the 11/04 built example had an older stamping date mentioned. The basic question I have is what would be recommended, do  I drill 3 holes or 4 holes for the clips? I need to convert a later style hood.

Richard

[67gta289]

Found some interesting pics on cars for sale on eBay.

First from 7T03C130150, date October 21, 1966, in white; note the "no hole" hood and routing of wiring.  Yes someone got a little gung ho with paint, but the clips and routing look correct.