Author Topic: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations -Hoods  (Read 24598 times)

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2012, 05:22:52 PM »
Here is a flat hood from a NJ 15K mile coupe 7T01C149061 (vin hard to read last 3 letters).  Looks like no hole, but darn I wish I had taken more pictures.
John
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2014, 11:29:07 AM »
Here is a Oct build Metuchen NJ car with the early hood. Note that the wiring is not routed correctly. I should run across the center of the hood under clips where the empty holes are. The green hood is the next version that routed through the hood structure but still used the clips on the center of the hood, this car is a Nov 4th SJ build. Both of these had tar soked cotten brade wire protector. The last version is a 68 July 12th dearborn build but started in late 67. This version no longer used the center clips, but used a adel style clamp undr the housing nuts. It's wire protector was vinyl tubing. Marty
I'm trying to get a closer look at this hood wiring and clips.

...and to verify if we know if this arrangement is "as it should be" for a Nov. 4th SJ?
Richard Urch

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I can assure your that it is correct for a 11-04-66 SJ build. If you need more detailed pics just ask.
Marty

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 10:20:45 AM »
Here are better details of 11-04-66 SJ early hood wire retainers. One is centered on the hood and the one to the left is 4 inches, the one to the right is 4 inches and the one to the furthest  right is 4.25.
Hope this helps

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 11:06:44 AM »
Here are better details of 11-04-66 SJ early hood wire retainers. One is centered on the hood and the one to the left is 4 inches, the one to the right is 4 inches and the one to the furthest  right is 4.25.
Hope this helps

Yes it does help tremendously...now to run down a few clips...

Does anybody have any crunched or rusted out hoods we can extract a few out of?

Richard
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2014, 02:50:22 PM »
Jim Chism has made reproductions that he sell for $15 or $20 each. I have not had a lot of luck collecting originals with out breaking them.
Marty

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2014, 03:05:54 PM »
JIm Chism? Does anybody have any contact info on him?
Richard Urch

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2014, 12:02:24 PM »
Here's the hood on my Metuchen '67, built Dec. 66  The wire harness clips have been painted over, but are still all there:



Too much junk, too little time.

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2014, 12:19:22 PM »
Yesterday I went to the bone yard and made some observations that were new to me.  I've always know about the early 67's having the washer bag vs later 67's having the washer bottle.  What I had not previously observed was the different radiator supports.  I also observed a very early 67 deluxe hood without the large holes for the wiring harness.  Here are a few pictures I snapped.

 




Early radiator support with oval opening above battery cooling vents.



Later support with square openings above battery cooling vents.

All of the oval opening radiator supports coincided with the washer bag and the square openings coincided with the washer bottle.  I only found the one early deluxe hood without the holes in the underhood support.  Has anyone else noted these observations?

Danny
FYI the oval vs. square openings in the radiator support are for Cougar headlight bracket mounting.
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2014, 03:14:56 PM »
Here is a picture of the clips that Jim had reproduced:
Richard Urch

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2014, 05:23:30 PM »
JIm Chism? Does anybody have any contact info on him?

Found a web site with some contact info
http://www.atlantamotorsportspark.com/events/music-city-mustand-club-may-23-2014/
John
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2014, 06:09:06 PM »
Found a web site with some contact info
http://www.atlantamotorsportspark.com/events/music-city-mustand-club-may-23-2014/

I DID get hold of Jim this morning and in an earlier post, I showed a picture of the clips he had made up.

Marty's car's (green hood) build date is 2 days after mine, also a SJ car. I assume then I need to get a total of 4 of these clips since my wires should go down the holes and across the hood structure as Marty's green hood has.

The curious thing I see is that other hoods all have only 3 clips or holes for the clips. (red hood, cream colored Feb 67 Dearborn, even the first example in the OP's example, all have only 3) Does anybody have other examples that have the 4 clips or 4 holes for the clips in the hood inner structure?

Richard
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2014, 08:51:25 PM »
Here's the hood on my Metuchen '67, built Dec. 66  The wire harness clips have been painted over, but are still all there:




If that is the original hood Metuchen was still using the un drilled early version.
Marty

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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2014, 08:59:14 AM »
If that is the original hood Metuchen was still using the un drilled early version.
Marty

Marty, I'm fairly certain that is the original hood for the car.  It's definitely rusty enough inside to be!
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Re: Early 67 vs Late 67 production observations (Hoods & Radiator Support)
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2014, 11:02:54 PM »
I found this drawing of a early 67 hood with all of the harness on the out side held with 7 of the 373202S clips.
I also took this picture of the Chism reproduction next to the original and it is pretty close.