Topic: 65 Interior Code D2

[birddog]

My interior code on my 1965 fastback is D2. I know D2 is parchment with blue appointments (white/blue trim). I have seen a few pictures in which I believe the steering column, lower dash, and seats are white. The dash pad, carpet, and I assume the headliner is blue. As I am preparing to start painting some of the interior pieces, I'm still not sure what pieces get what colors. For instance, what color are the A pillars, doors, headliner trim, interior panels, and door panels. Can anyone help point me in the right direction.

[Pete Bush]

You'll find the sum of my research to-date here:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4576.0

I haven't started on 1965 yet. Currently the table refers to 1966.

[ChrisV289]

Sorry to bring this topic back but I was looking at the interior codes, is there a difference between interior code 42 and D2?  In one of my books it says D2 is white with blue appt and another book says Parchment w/ blue appt. 

[J_Speegle]

Sorry to bring this topic back but I was looking at the interior codes, is there a difference between interior code 42 and D2?  In one of my books it says D2 is white with blue appt and another book says Parchment w/ blue appt.

No problem - likely better than starting a new one since its the same subject

The Mustang Production Guide only shows
- D2 as a standard interior with Parchment vinyl for 65 . No interior codes starting with the number "4"
- During 64 1/2 production is lists 42 as a standard interior - White with Blue appointments

If this is correct then the code and the period of time when the car was assembled make the difference


Believe this may be an example of a D2 interior. Got to love that location for the aftermarket speakers.  Going to feel that bass




And an example of the 42 interior

[ChrisV289]

Thanks Jeff, the top pic though, looks like black and not blue...Still a little confused one what color I should be painting the fiberglass panels in the back.  Should it be white 5767 or parchment 5779 for a D2 interior in a 65 Fastback?

[J_Speegle]

Thanks Jeff, the top pic though, looks like black and not blue...

Would match if D2 was Parchment vinyl for 65 as listed in my text. Since there wasn't a Parchment dash pad I would guess.

Still a little confused one what color I should be painting the fiberglass panels in the back.  Should it be white 5767 or parchment 5779 for a D2 interior in a 65 Fastback?

Didn't realize you were asking specifically about a fastback applications. Will go back through and see if I have a fastback with a D2. In general those panels were painted to match the color of the doors

[J_Speegle]

Don't have any interior pictures of a 65 fastback with the D2 interior but the practice was to paint the rear side panels (sides, trap door, corners, upper trim and beltline) the same color as the metal door surface and the dash

[ChrisV289]

So I’m eventually going to replace the carpet in the car and there are two blues offered according to TMI and ACC.there is Ford Blue and Dark Blue. Anyone know which one is correct? Carpet has already been replaced at least twice in its life.

Thanks

[196667Bob]

Sorry to bring this topic back but I was looking at the interior codes, is there a difference between interior code 42 and D2?  In one of my books it says D2 is white with blue appt and another book says Parchment w/ blue appt.

No problem - likely better than starting a new one since its the same subject

The Mustang Production Guide only shows
- D2 as a standard interior with Parchment vinyl for 65 . No interior codes starting with the number "4"
- During 64 1/2 production is lists 42 as a standard interior - White with Blue appointments

If this is correct then the code and the period of time when the car was assembled make the difference

According to the 1960-68 MPC, in the 1965 Soft Trim Section (sheets Revised February, 1966), there were both Code 42 and Code D2 Interiors (see copies attached). Note that the major difference appears to be the Headliners ; Code 42 has a White Headliner (123), while Code D2 is an Off-White Headliner (129). Note that I call it Off-White and not Parchment. This is because this same Headliner was also used in cars with Palomino Interiors, as well as others.
To see if all separate trim pieces (windlace, visors, etc., were the same for both Interior Codes, one would need to go through all of the separate pieces listed, and compare.

As far as Parchment goes, while it was used extensively in 1966 Interiors, the only mention of Parchment in the 1965 Soft Trim Section is for a Code 291 Interior.

Just my observations. I am no 65 expert.

Bob

Bob

[jwc66k]

Just my observations. I am no 65 expert.

That's because paint code 42 is for a "64 1/2" Mustang, and Ford called them "early" 65 Mustangs. "They" never made a 64 1/2 (but we know different).
Jim

[J_Speegle]

As far as Parchment goes, while it was used extensively in 1966 Interiors, the only mention of Parchment in the 1965 Soft Trim Section is for a Code 291 Interior.

Any indication that the code 291 has any relationship to Mustangs? Looks like that may be (poor copy in the post of that sample) a carpet or fabric color so likely has nothing to do with our cars it would seem  unless I'm missing something

Do your soft trim pages show the carpet color for Chris?

[196667Bob]

That's because paint code 42 is for a "64 1/2" Mustang, and Ford called them "early" 65 Mustangs. "They" never made a 64 1/2 (but we know different).
Jim

Jim : You are of course correct. It does show, however, the difference between a Code 42 and Code D2 - the Headliner.

Any indication that the code 291 has any relationship to Mustangs? Looks like that may be (poor copy in the post of that sample) a carpet or fabric color so likely has nothing to do with our cars it would seem  unless I'm missing something

Jeff : Yes, it does show the "Parchment Crinkle all Vinyl" applicable to Mustangs ; I just didn't scan that page. I have now attached it.

In regard to Chris' Carpet color, it doesn't appear to be very definitive in the Soft Trim Section. It lists every type of Interior Trim piece (windlace, padded dash, visors, door panels, front carpet, rear carpet, etc.) However, the suffixes of each individual part are found under a somewhat "generic" color ; in this case "Blue". The example I have attached for "Front Carpet" gives the Part Number (C5ZZ-6513000), and its suffix of "AAD". I don't see anything that decodes the suffix.

Bob

Do your soft trim pages show the carpet color for Chris?

[ChrisV289]

So the carpet color is AAD and was used in interior code 42 as well if I am reading the chart right? Is there a swatch of AAD running around?

[196667Bob]

Chris : That's the way I read it also. I do not know how to relate the AAD to the swatches, which are numerical.

There is only one other sheet, other than what I previously Posted, that shows a carpet sample. I will Post it now, for what it's worth.

One thing to remember here, is that the sheets that I Posted here are from a Master Parts Catalog, which is based on Service Parts, thus appears to be set up more to match something that exists, rather than to order it initially. The 1965 Color and Upholstery Book might be the best source for your answers. Unfortunately, I only have those for 1966 and 1967.

Bob

[ChrisV289]

What does 66 show for D2 carpet?  One of those books for 65 is on ebay right now but it is $700.00.  I sent an email tot SMS Fabrics up in Oregon.  They were helpful with my honey gold vinyl.  They might have access to this book and at least tell me the shade of blue for D2.