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Offline cobraboy

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65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« on: February 12, 2012, 10:49:52 AM »
Hi
I have a Plaid mat in my trunk. Should there be any sound deadener under it, or is that all there was  ?
Thank you.


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Re: Trunk sound deadener
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 11:01:22 AM »
Cobra,
My early San Jose fastback has the plaid vinyl liner and underneath has a thick (almost 1/2") jute style sheet of insulation laid across the top of the gas tank.  I guess they were only concerned about gas sloshing noise only as I would think you could use a larger sheet to also cut down on road noise too!

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Re: Trunk sound deadener
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 12:17:19 PM »
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Re: Trunk sound deadener
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 02:18:39 PM »
MWM
Do you think this underlayer is original ?
67gta289
These discussions seem to relate to later cars
Thank you
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Trunk sound deadener
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 05:53:08 PM »
I haven't seen underlayment typically under 64-66 Mustangs. Lets see what others have found on late 65 Deaborn cars.

Later cars, it appears, that the amount and use of underlayment may be related to the model of the car
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Re: Trunk sound deadener
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 05:56:29 PM »
OK thanks Jeff.
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 06:04:59 PM »
Checking my pictures I found a couple of Dearborn Mustangs (no fastbacks so far)  that had some underlayment (not coated on both sides on one original example that just covered the tank)

Will be interested in the input from Charles and others that have seen allot more Dearborn examples
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 09:22:42 PM »
Both of mu June 65 Dearborn cars have a pad on the top of the gas tank under the trunk mat.
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 01:18:07 PM »
Both of mu June 65 Dearborn cars have a pad on the top of the gas tank under the trunk mat.
Would you be able to describe it or show a pic ?
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 02:53:35 PM »
Here you go cobraboy
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 08:06:56 PM »
Cobra,
My trunk sound deadener looks similar to mgmradio in size and has the jute fibers, except mine looks older and has that musty smell!  Maybe original??? Wouldn't know for sure as I have only had the car about twelve years...

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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 10:33:17 AM »
CJ Pony Parts sells a tar underlayment for the top of the gas tank.  Is this correct for any year/application?  If I am understanding correctly, the Jute would be directly on top of the tank with no tar?  Also, would a 1966 coupe have the 6"x12" masonite board under the jack?

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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 12:09:34 PM »
Gentlemen, Thank you all for the help.
Just one final question. Does the original underlayment that you two guys have in your cars have any tar coating at all ?
If not then the CJ Ponyparts sheet would not be strictly correct. The CJ part looks to be coated on both sides making removal difficult.
If the originals did not have tar I will source some underlayment over here.
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 03:13:40 PM »
No tar or backing at all.Just a couple of dabs of yellow glue to hold it in place.
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Re: 65 Dearborn FB - Trunk sound deadener (Underlayment)
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 06:22:40 PM »
My observation over the years is that all body style 76 (conv) had or were meant to have the jute underlayment.  Without this the "sloshing" of the fuel while driving is very evident and not in step with the expectations of a mid sixties buyer.  The top of the tank was the ONLY place that a sound barrier could be incorporated since the divider between trunk and cabin is pretty well taken up by the well and the folding top and associated parts.  The coupe was intended to have the same jute type insulation/sound barrier placed on the vertical section behind the back seat which serves as a divider between the trunk area and the cabin.  In addition some type of material was used on the little body panel that seperated the tank (floor) from the vertical section.  This silences the gas slosh and I suppose in addition provides a little thermal  insulation between the cabin and the trunk.  The fastback body style is open for discussion.  The 65 interior FAM shows a jute insulator was used, but the 66 for some reason does not show any.  I have a 65 fastback with deluxe interior built April 22, 1965 which, as far as I can tell did not have the jute sound insulator.  Could it have been there when the car was built?  You bet it could but it had the original mat still in place in 1984 when I purchased it from the second owner but no jute mat.  Seems odd it would have been removed but there is no way of telling.  I have agonized over this question for almost 30 years and have looked at several examples and have come to NO conclusion about the fastback and I hope that someone will provide images or proof that this insulator was or was not incorporated in a Spring of 65 fastback built at Dearborn (or anywhere else, too).  Look at the dates in both the 65 and the 66 FAM drawings of the trunk area and post what you think about the change date shown.
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