Author Topic: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?  (Read 2292 times)

Offline Oz390

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68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« on: January 29, 2012, 05:13:33 AM »
Dec 67 build, PS, PB, GT no AC.  Have a few on the shelf and forget which one came off it all those years ago... assuming one is correct???

8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 11:17:48 AM »
From this site
http://www.stangerssite.com/fordpumppulleyID1.html
It appears it should be 6AA.
1967 Mustang Sport Sprint Coupe 289 Auto, AC, PS, CA Smog, Built April 1967 in San Jose.  Unrestored, one family owned and in my possession since 1980.
1969 Mustang Mach1 390
1970 Mustang Mach 1 428SCJ Auto, PS, PDB, medium bright blue metallic with White Shaker, built Sept 12, 69 in Metuchen

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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 03:17:36 AM »
Great....  more spares... :o
8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 03:23:56 AM »
... and why does AC change the pulley?  The AC would put more load on the engine, and some wieght on the car.  But why would you go with a bigger pulley with AC, which slows the pump speed..???   
8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 10:40:35 AM »
For one thing it is a different offset because its driven by different pulley. I think the theory of the larger pulley is that it requires less hp to turn a larger pulley
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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 07:08:54 PM »
For one thing it is a different offset because its driven by different pulley. I think the theory of the larger pulley is that it requires less hp to turn a larger pulley
That theory goes hand in hand with the fact the larger pulley cuts down on the speed or revolutions. The need for the decrease in speed depends on the application. For instance the hipo alt pulley is larger because of the intended higher rpm operating conditions and the need to keep the RPMS down at the alt hub at high operating speeds. The 67 GT500 P/S pulley has a huge pulley on a A/C car application to keep the speed down on the pump . Just explaining the reasoning .I am not a engineer and can't explain in detail what constitutes the need on each individual item. Bob
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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 07:46:22 PM »
The rpm issue is moot, e.g. on a 390 they used two differnt diameter puleys for AC vs non-AC, so same RPM range as its the same engine.  As an engineer I can't see why they would alter the pulley offset on the PS and make assmebly more complex, and the cost of more parts, and not just accomodate at the AC pump???  Very odd... but....

Off to try to find a 6AA....
8R03S : 76A I 2A 15M 72 5 U
8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: 68 San Jose S code - PS Pulley 7AA or AF?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 12:12:44 AM »
The rpm issue is moot, e.g. on a 390 they used two differnt diameter puleys for AC vs non-AC, so same RPM range as its the same engine.  As an engineer I can't see why they would alter the pulley offset on the PS and make assmebly more complex, and the cost of more parts, and not just accomodate at the AC pump???  Very odd... but....

Off to try to find a 6AA....
The size issue on the pulleys is just how it has been explained in the high performance reference books for the last 45 years.  Some engineer had to justify his keep at Ford. The 6AA isn't that hard to find but if you can't find one PM me I have one. Bob 
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