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Offline gjz30075

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Tie rod sleeve bolts
« on: December 20, 2011, 10:10:29 PM »
I found this sleeve in my parts but not certain of its origin.    Would this bolt be correct for a SJ Oct '65 manual steering car?    Would power steering be different?
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 12:01:24 AM »
Yes, and no. That is the correct bolt if it's 3/8-24X1 3/4in L, 1 1/8in thread length, Gr 5, and if it's on the RH side. The "TR" head marking is what I've got on my cars. I haven't found a Ford part number for that bolt yet. The nut is special nylon center lock type, Ford p/n 373036-S2. The "no" part is the LH is different as the adjusting sleeve is larger. The bolts are Ford p/n 376179-S2, 3/8-24X1 5/8in L with a hex under the head similar to a carriage bolt. The nuts are the same for both sides.
A non-power steering V-8 car uses the same hardware as the RH side on the LH side.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 08:56:52 AM »
Thanks Jim.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 04:48:11 PM »
What is the head size...1/2" or 9/16"???  My car is a 66 Shelby so San Jose with manual steering.  Noticed today that when the car was restored [8 years ago] that the bolts were 9/16" head and 9/16" bolt.  I found a set of 1/2" bolts with an "F" marking.  What is correct?

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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2018, 05:14:39 PM »
Steve,
They should be 9/16 hex. Even though you have a Shelby, if I may direct your attention to the Library section of this forum to topic "Mustang Hardware Spreadsheet 64-66", and then you should open file "MHW64-66AP04.xlsx", (it lists the hardware by application) and scan down to "Tie Rod Adjusting Sleeve,xx" for more information. There is I-6 and V8 differences, plus manual and power steering differences to contend with.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2018, 05:17:23 PM »
What is the head size...1/2" or 9/16"???  My car is a 66 Shelby so San Jose with manual steering.  Noticed today that when the car was restored [8 years ago] that the bolts were 9/16" head and 9/16" bolt.  I found a set of 1/2" bolts with an "F" marking.  What is correct?

Thanks, Steve
The 1/2 with the f marking are 67-up style. 9/16 has been addressed.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 08:29:41 AM »
WOW!  Thanks all.  The library function is super comprehensive.  I had no idea.

Thanks again.  Now the search is on for the bolts...good luck right?

Steve
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 09:37:28 AM »
Not easy to find apparently!  NPD sells the ones for '67 up [the ones I purchased although their catalog says '66 - WRONG again!]. AMK lists the same kit as NPD for the 65-66.  They are 3/8 x 24 but have the 1/2" head with the "F" marking.  I wish these dudes would take the extra effort to market their nuts and bolt correctly like the swell spreadsheet.  AMK marks the bag correctly BUT the sell them for a '66!!! 

Anyway thanks all.

Steve
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 03:53:37 PM »
WOW!  Thanks all.  The library function is super comprehensive.  I had no idea.

Yes allot of effort has been dedicated and offered up by some of or members of which we are VERY appreciative!!!!
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 05:01:35 PM »
On power steering cars, the LH tie rod sleeve usually has an 'A' marking on the bolt.  Have seen the nylon insert nuts with red and white nylon.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 05:42:09 PM »
On power steering cars, the LH tie rod sleeve usually has an 'A' marking on the bolt.  Have seen the nylon insert nuts with red and white nylon.
The bolt, 376179-S2, was also grade 5, without a "recessed" head and had an usual square shoulder under the head to fit the tie rod sleeve clamp, C2VY-3287-A, that had a square locking hole. The adjusting sleeve, C2VY-3310-A, was larger than a standard V-8 sleeve as it was for a pair of 3/4 inch tie rod ends.
All the nuts, 373036-S2, I have do have a round red nylon lock.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2018, 11:47:59 AM »
Does anybody have any of the nuts and bolts for a San Jose manual steering car?  Car is '66 Shelby [#406].

Thanks for looking!

All the best, Steve
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2018, 09:38:28 AM »
Just a fast confirmation on a power steering car...LH side, 'A' marked head on the bolts, RH side, 'TR' marks were there, same as what Jim has on his. I know these to be original to the car as well. I can also confirm that Type F is very red and messy on a white (sealed) garage floor....
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2018, 10:42:20 AM »
Just a fast confirmation on a power steering car...LH side, 'A' marked head on the bolts, RH side, 'TR' marks were there, same as what Jim has on his.

Yes, I would agree with that.
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Re: Tie rod sleeve bolts
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2018, 01:06:10 PM »
Pictures of the Left power steering assembly.
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