Topic: 67 floor jack and spare tire bolt

[67gta289]

I looked through some old threads about floor jacks and could not come up with an answer, so am posting this.  I just found a jack and spare tire bolt from a 67 Cougar in a junkyard.  Pictures attached.  My questions are:

1. Is this fine threaded jack correct for my application? (listed below)
2. Is the jack worth investing time and effort in restoring, or are nice ones easy to find?
3. Is the spare tire bolt correct for my application?  I've got a styled steel wheel spare.  I know that there is some discussion on whether or not the factory supplied the styled steel wheel as a spare or only done by the dealer.  Nonetheless the original owner tells me that it is as delivered from the dealer.

Thanks John
67 SJ built Dec 20 1966

[Bob Gaines]

I looked through some old threads about floor jacks and could not come up with an answer, so am posting this.  I just found a jack and spare tire bolt from a 67 Cougar in a junkyard.  Pictures attached.  My questions are:

1. Is this fine threaded jack correct for my application? (listed below)
2. Is the jack worth investing time and effort in restoring, or are nice ones easy to find?
3. Is the spare tire bolt correct for my application?  I've got a styled steel wheel spare.  I know that there is some discussion on whether or not the factory supplied the styled steel wheel as a spare or only done by the dealer.  Nonetheless the original owner tells me that it is as delivered from the dealer.

Thanks John
67 SJ built Dec 20 1966

I have seen both fine and course in 67 SJ cars . They must be two different vendors serving the same plant. More fine then course. I am not sure about the hold down. I think you could find a better example but maybe it will clean up with out too many pits. The screw will be zinc phosphate and then there are  nylon washers and a clear zinc washer. you will have to grind down the swedge that locks in the screw if you want to disasemble. I hope this helps.Bob   

[67gta289]

Bob - thanks for the help.

[67gtasanjose]

After reading the article found in the LIBRARY at this site on identifying Jacks, I also was curious to identify my jacks since I have two of them.
I also have two different handles, one that is cast and another that is a hollow stamped steel style.
Now, I could very well have switched out either or both along the way because I was a real scrounger for "nicer looking parts" while I worked at a few different salvage yards, while many old Mustangs and Cougars were around for easy pickings. I actually was surprised that one of my jacks seems to be correct, it IS a fine threaded with a double pinch-weld "+" for lifting on the flip top. The one pictured in the article found in the Library did not appear to have the double "+" style lifting point, yet the one pictured above in this thread does seem to have it and looks pretty much like mine does, except mine does not look that horrible from being rusted.
The OTHER jack I have is very similar over all except it has two different levels to hold onto the pinch weld with, one is higher or taller than the other. It also differs in that there is only 1 way to align it into the pinch weld, unlike the other jack just mentioned. I will try uploading pictures later and see if I also find any other identifying features that are mentioned in the <Library> article. It is possible that the 2nd one is not even out of a 60's model Mustang, but it would be nice to I.D. it just the same.

[67gtasanjose]

I found no identifying info except a number "2" on a side, see pictures. The other jack (top photo) I have is definately not a mustang jack. It has a 3/4" drive nut.

[Bossbill]

While at the Portland Swap Meet I found a HiPo Mustang vendor who had a correct SJ R/H jack and handle. Not cheap, but correct.

Later at the racetrack meet I spied another jack in a basket along with some offshore brands ... and it turns out to be the exact jack Richard (67gtasanjose) shows in Pic #1 ! Right down to the "2" on the sides. I was hoping it was a Mustang jack, nut it's not. But made just like one, except for the saddle.

Now I know Richard and I have been following each other's posts around for some time, but this is getting ridiculous.

On a more interesting point, this matches my R/H jack with respect to screw thread pitch. Since it has a 3/4 head a case could be made for grinding down the swadge on both and putting the 3/4 screw into the R/H jack to create a Magstar jack.

Can anyone ID this jack? I spend some time googling it and never did find a match.

Pic#1 -- Top view of both jacks -- same length

Pic #2 -- View both laid down (parallax makes the top jack appear shorter)

Pic #3 -- Correct 13/16 Mustang handle on right, Mopar numbered handle that came with jack on left. Mopar number is 5216018 for 85-96 Mopar.

 I think it was included with jack simply because it is a 1/2 jack handle and does not match the jack in era.

[on edit -- Just like Richard's jack, this is not a Mustang jack. But it looks like one except for the flip top saddle]

[jwc66k]

I have a jack guide downloaded that was created by Marcus Anghel. Try his website - http://www.anghelrestorations.com/
Jim

[Bossbill]

I have Anghel's guide but this, like Richard says earlier, is not a Mustang jack.
With a 3/4 wrench size, probably Mopar or GM. Maybe even AMC!

I updated my post to indicate that I know it's not a Mustang jack, but very close.

[Bob Gaines]

I have Anghel's guide but this, like Richard says earlier, is not a Mustang jack.
With a 3/4 wrench size, probably Mopar or GM. Maybe even AMC!

I updated my post to indicate that I know it's not a Mustang jack, but very close.

Apparently the HiPo Mustang vendor did not know the difference between a correct SJ jack and one from another plant. The bottom Mustang jack in your picture was a style most commonly seen at Dearborn and Metuchen but not SJ where your 67 Shelby was built .The Dearborn screw threads through a solid steel block. The typical SJ jack screw threads through a "U" shaped bracket with a nut welded to it.

[Bossbill]

My only printable words are "Isn't that lovely."

I was going by a few sentences in the Anghel PDF, mainly:
"Another important distinction on some of the earlier style jacks from 1964.5 to 1965 is the threaded trunnion is an actual nut that is tack welded to the outside of the jack assembly. For obvious reasons this was changed as it was a poor design."
Evidently it wasn't.

The Anghel PDF states "In 1967 Shelby offered a Magstar wheel option. This wheel came with a ¾ inch lug nut, and because of this they matched the jack handle and jack with the same ¾ inch drive. The jack is identical to any other jack of the period except it would have a ¾ inch drive head on the adjusting screw, and the adjusting screw itself would have been a fine thread."
Not so identical it seems.

Look for a Trade Ad after I clean up and paint this thing. Thankfully it will be a while before I need this. And the stock TL shifter I just bought.

[Bob Gaines]

My only printable words are "Isn't that lovely."

I was going by a few sentences in the Anghel PDF, mainly:
"Another important distinction on some of the earlier style jacks from 1964.5 to 1965 is the threaded trunnion is an actual nut that is tack welded to the outside of the jack assembly. For obvious reasons this was changed as it was a poor design."
Evidently it wasn't.

The Anghel PDF states "In 1967 Shelby offered a Magstar wheel option. This wheel came with a ¾ inch lug nut, and because of this they matched the jack handle and jack with the same ¾ inch drive. The jack is identical to any other jack of the period except it would have a ¾ inch drive head on the adjusting screw, and the adjusting screw itself would have been a fine thread."
Not so identical it seems.

Look for a Trade Ad after I clean up and paint this thing. Thankfully it will be a while before I need this. And the stock TL shifter I just bought.

Kudos to Marcus Anghel for putting himself out there to help with the jack identification . It is a evolving process. The 64.5-66 jacks are smaller in length compared to the 67-70 longer version . I have found the style of jack (regardless of short or longer) with the welded nut on 65-69 cars typically SJ cars. Also although not mentioned not all jacks received a date stamp starting with 1967 like has been written. Even one jack without a date stamp dispels that statement . I have dozens of the 67-70 styles without dates.  From my observations and percentages found ,no date stamp was more typical then with a date stamp. My guess is the date stamp was done on one or two in a batch for tracking purposes given the percentages found with no stamps.