Author Topic: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?  (Read 11232 times)

Offline DTruitt

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 237
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 06:48:19 PM »
Ford dealers used to service the paint in spray cans.  I haven't bought any recently, but argent was used a lot on all different makes and models.

Danny
1968 Raven Black, S- Code, 4 spd., GT Fastback, San Jose, March 1968
1968 Candy Apple Red, J- Code, C-4, GT Convertable, San Jose, April 1968 (SOLD)
1968 Raven Black, R- Code, 4 spd., GT Coupe, Dearborn, April 1968
MCA Gold Card Judge

Offline cjmustangman

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 81
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 03:34:34 PM »
thanks for the replys, I'll get some VHT wheel paint in silver argent
Arild

Offline Kascus

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2023, 06:18:00 PM »
How were the 68 GT rims painted originally? Was it Argent front that transitioned to a satin black backside like the one pictured? Did the argent overspray through the holes as pictured?
Current:
1968.5 428 CJ Fastback / San Jose 05-15-68
1964.5 289 D Code Coupe / Dearborn 06-05-64
1966 289 C Code Convertible /San Jose 02-11-66


Past:
1965 Shelby SFM5S561
1966 289 FB
1965 289 Coupe
1969 302 Fastback

Offline preaction

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1330
Re: 1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2023, 11:54:28 PM »
A look at your Marti report to see what should be on your car would be a good start.
8F02R218047-  July 18 1968   Dearborn

Offline J_Speegle

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24620
Re: 1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2023, 12:35:54 AM »
In your search of the site did you happen to find the thread below?  Think it might answer your questions. We might be able to add additional pictures. Used the words "68 Argent wheel"

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=3475.0

Will merge this thread and that one in a day or so

Appears from the sample that the silver was painted argent first then the black after. Since they would not have wanted any black on the front side they must have had some process to protect or mask the front from overspray
« Last Edit: April 22, 2023, 12:43:00 AM by J_Speegle »
Jeff Speegle

Anything worth doing is worth doing concours ;)

Offline Kascus

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
Re: 1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2023, 11:23:02 AM »
Thanks, I used the wrong search term. That was the info I needed.
Current:
1968.5 428 CJ Fastback / San Jose 05-15-68
1964.5 289 D Code Coupe / Dearborn 06-05-64
1966 289 C Code Convertible /San Jose 02-11-66


Past:
1965 Shelby SFM5S561
1966 289 FB
1965 289 Coupe
1969 302 Fastback

Offline dkknab

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 737
Re: 1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2023, 12:31:53 PM »
I'm assuming this applies to the styled wheels on my Sprint B too. Argent on the outside and semi gloss black on the inside,  correct? Or should the inside be a satin black?
David Knab

1968 Sunlit Gold Coupe Sprint B
289 2V, AT, PS
Nugget Gold Interior
April 5, 1968 Build Date, Metuchen Plant

2019 Bullitt Highland Green K7662

Offline J_Speegle

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24620
Re: 1968 GT Style Steel rims
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2023, 02:20:10 PM »
I'm assuming this applies to the styled wheels on my Sprint B too. Argent on the outside and semi gloss black on the inside,  correct? Or should the inside be a satin black?

Yes. An argent painted wheel in 68 is the same as another based on what I've seen and what we have collected. They didn't have "satin" in the day so you/they only had gloss and semi-gloss to choose from. Not all the designer terms and different products of today so yes - semi-gloss  or what ever you can find that reproduces that look.

You might want to create a sample board for long term use as mentioned in a couple of other threads. Take a piece of strap metal, gusset or similar piece of metal, buy a hand full potential spray cans and paint stripes (maybe an inch or two wide) along the length of each color then use it as a guide to which black you want to use on any particular part in the future or to compare to original paint samples to chose the closest match.  Black painted parts, for example, in the engine compartment, would not have originally all been the same since they were painted at different locations, with different paint supplier, mixes and conditions so this can help with that also.

Here is a similar test or sample board I used for floor/undercarriage colors

Jeff Speegle

Anything worth doing is worth doing concours ;)

Offline Anghelrestorations

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1193
    • Anghel Restorations
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2023, 10:58:16 PM »
This is an old old thread but wanted to revive this as I need to paint a set of argent wheels for a 68.  Wanted to make sure there is still an agreement here that the black paint is on the inside of the slots.  I see the original posts from "68 S Code" but he has not been active for years.  Seems the inside of the slots would be argent and would be alot easier to spray that way.  Just seeing if anyone has new information since 2012.
 
Also if anyone has an exact spray gun formula for the argent on the wheels as I will not be using a rattle can. 

wheel 1 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr

wheel 2 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr
Marcus Anghel
MCA National Gold Card Judge, 69-71 Mustang
SAAC National Head Judge, Boss Mustangs

www.anghelrestorations.com
www.facebook.com/anghelrestorations
www.instagram.com/anghelrestorations

Offline J_Speegle

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24620
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2023, 12:06:57 AM »
This is an old old thread but wanted to revive this as I need to paint a set of argent wheels for a 68.  Wanted to make sure there is still an agreement here that the black paint is on the inside of the slots.  I see the original posts from "68 S Code" but he has not been active for years.  Seems the inside of the slots would be argent and would be alot easier to spray that way.  Just seeing if anyone has new information since 2012.

Feel comfortable that original painted wheels shown years ago still represent original finishes. Coating did not appear to be heavy. Have not seen black on the inner lip of the "holes" as the argent IMHO was likely applied after the black base paint as done in other wheels unlike what you posted above. Think it makes sense since in that way they would not need to mask of the back side or wheel in any way. Just paint the black painted rim argent without spending time and effort on masking and if done in reverse (black last) you run the risk of black over the argent - not what they would have wanted.
Jeff Speegle

Anything worth doing is worth doing concours ;)

Offline Anghelrestorations

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1193
    • Anghel Restorations
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2023, 08:10:11 AM »
Agreed...thats what I thinlk as well Jeff.  Overspray on the back of the wheel is not as critical or an issue like it is on the front of the wheel.  I will see if I can find some original wheels with this paint pattern and update post with photos.  At Carlisle this week...never know what you can find here. 
Marcus Anghel
MCA National Gold Card Judge, 69-71 Mustang
SAAC National Head Judge, Boss Mustangs

www.anghelrestorations.com
www.facebook.com/anghelrestorations
www.instagram.com/anghelrestorations

Offline Anghelrestorations

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1193
    • Anghel Restorations
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2023, 10:56:28 PM »
Verified today with an original paint wheel the paint pattern of the argent being sprayed after the black.....

20230602_102917 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr

20230602_102851 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr
Marcus Anghel
MCA National Gold Card Judge, 69-71 Mustang
SAAC National Head Judge, Boss Mustangs

www.anghelrestorations.com
www.facebook.com/anghelrestorations
www.instagram.com/anghelrestorations

Offline bullitt68

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2206
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2023, 01:52:36 PM »
Verified today with an original paint wheel the paint pattern of the argent being sprayed after the black.....

20230602_102917 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr

20230602_102851 by Marcus Anghel, on Flickr

Great reference photos Marcus. My 68 GT wheels are chrome. Should I assume that they were chromed after the fact and that GT wheels weren't  chrome
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968

Offline krelboyne

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1223
    • West Coast Classic Cougars
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2023, 07:26:28 PM »
Ford made chrome versions of this wheel.
Have saw them on 1969 Mercury Cougar Eliminator, and on 1968 and / or 1969 Mercury Cyclone.
Scott Behncke - Carcheaologist
West Coast Classic Cougars
503-463-1130
1968 GT/CS 302-4V San Jose 05B
1968 Cougar XR7 Dearborn 09A

Offline bullitt68

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2206
Re: OEM finish for 68 styled steel argent wheels ?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2023, 08:27:35 PM »
Ford made chrome versions of this wheel.
Have saw them on 1969 Mercury Cougar Eliminator, and on 1968 and / or 1969 Mercury Cyclone.

 Thanks Scott. So would the chrome wheel option be on the Marty (Marti) report, or where they available on Mustangs in '68?
« Last Edit: July 27, 2023, 10:11:17 PM by carlite65 »
Mike
1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 Raven Black, 4 speed
8R02S162374, San Jose, June 5, 1968