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Online mach1one

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69 428 starter
« on: November 15, 2009, 07:19:29 PM »
on factory original 69 BB what is the finish of the clamp that surrounds the starter and the rear cap. Thanks Lu

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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 08:38:28 PM »
Black. The entire starter should be black except for the terminal stud. Paint was also stopped short of edge where it contacts bellhousing (soft edge) to allow ground
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 03:40:03 PM »
I just did my starter  nose is alm body is black,the rear clamp is steel in color.the part on top is steel color too.

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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 07:32:21 PM »
here is a starting point from the 428cj site.....

http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-starter.html

details as mentioned above....
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 10:57:39 PM »
Black. The entire starter should be black except for the terminal stud. Paint was also stopped short of edge where it contacts bellhousing (soft edge) to allow ground
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 11:24:56 PM »
here is a starting point from the 428cj site.....

http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-starter.html

details as mentioned above....


Agreed good info - just don't copy the finishes shown there. Maybe we need to send Scott a few pictures ;)

This is basically what we see.... with this much or less black on the aluminum snout




Hope this helps
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 12:49:12 AM »

[/quote]







[/quote]Notice the paper gasket under the band clamp in the picture Jeff posted. That is a detail that is easy to reproduce but left off on the vast majority of restored starters I ever see. It is a brown paperlike gasket material under the black paint.
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 08:23:40 AM »
great photos guys.......yes please send them to Scott and I am sure he will post for a reference on the 428site.......

one thing to be aware of when buying a rebuilt one or getting rebuilt make sure they keep the orig nose cone......

I think there is a long and short version......

at least there is for the starter on my 1970 351W and it caused probs with engaging the flywheel with wrong nose cone
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 08:52:08 AM »
Where did that picture come from?
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 12:45:34 PM »
Here is another picture of a less then NOS BB starter off of a survivor 69 GT500 that I wanted to present to show the consistency of appearance between the service part appearance and the assemblyline installed appearance.
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 09:05:20 PM »
Where did that picture come from?

Just one in the database.  Believe its an early service replacement/NOS one
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Re: 69 428 starter
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 06:42:47 PM »
Here are some pictures of a NOS C9AF-B starter for details. NOS,never messed with.Not a rebuilt unit.Use/save/delete as needed! This is to show the details ONLY, not the correct numbers on the case! Please note that. 428 CJ unit would be AUTOLITE C8AF, not C9AF.   
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