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428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« on: July 15, 2011, 12:44:53 AM »
Thanks to those who supplied additional information and photos - Bruce Klier, Scott Fuller, Pete Disher, Jim Woods and Scott Hollenbeck. 

If anyone has additional information from original cars please share your photos and/or comments.
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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2011, 12:45:29 AM »
 428 Cobra Jet Radiator Cooling Fan Shroud Identification

All 1968, 1969 and 1970 428 equipped Mustangs and Cougars used a 24 inch radiator fan shroud to concentrate air flow between the radiator and the cooling fan to make the cooling system run more efficient.  The fan shroud is designed to enclose the core area so that when the fan is spinning, air flows through the entire surface area.  This greatly increases the radiators ability to transfer heat.



The fan shrouds themselves are a type of fiberglass and were manufactured by Barnum Brothers Fibre Company of Michigan who was a supplier to the major car manufacturers of the time.  Ford’s part number for the fan shroud is C8ZZ-8146-A.  There are two distinct variations of the fan shroud which are identified by the engineering numbers C8ZE-8146-A and C8ZE-8146-C.

The C8ZE-8146-A version was the original design shroud and would have been installed on the 1968 428 equipped cars.  It is simply identified with the word TOP molded in the top left and the edge molded with a large square FoMoCo logo, C8ZE-8146-A, and Barnum Bros. Fibre Co., Inc. 



The major difference between the –A and –C version shroud is the reinforcement area around the lower radiator hose.  The mold for the –C version was slightly changed by Ford probably due to breakage/warranty complaints and supplies more reinforcement in this area that is prone to cracking.

-A Version


-C Version



For the C8ZE-8146-C shroud there are three distinct versions, with the difference being in the markings/logo and the fiberglass texture of the shroud itself.  The markings are located on the top drivers side of the fan shroud. 

The first version which probably appeared in early 1969 models is identified with the word TOP molded in the top left and the edge molded with a large square FoMoCo logo, C8ZE-8146-C, and Barnum Bros. Fibre Co., Inc.  The texture is commonly referred to as a horse hair texture, which has numerous large glass fibres as opposed to later versions which are smooth.



The second version, which appeared either in very late 1970 production, or only as a service part, now has the oval Ford logo in the top left in addition to the word TOP.  This period was when Ford was phasing out the block FoMoCo to the oval Ford logo.  The edge is molded with a large FoMoCo that is now is lined out, C8ZE-8146-C, and Barnum Bros. Fibre Co., Inc.  The texture would still have been a horse hair texture.



The third/Service version which is the service replacement which was sold at Ford dealerships up into the 1990’s has the oval Ford logo in the top left and the word TOP.  The edge is molded with a large FoMoCo that is lined out, C8ZE-8146-C, and Barnum Bros. Fibre Co., Inc.  The texture of the fiberglass on these fan shrouds now is a smooth texture with no glass fibres visible anymore and the shroud feels slightly more flexible. 





Fan shrouds with a lined out FoMoCo on the side are considered service replacements as they would not have appeared in regular assembly line cars, except possibly on some of the last built 1970 Cobrajets. 

Pictures of the lined out versus non lined out versions:






Current Reproduction version available today is manufactured by Daniel Carpenter Mustang Reproductions and sold thru various resellers.  The shroud seems to be an exact copy of the –C version with no FoMoCo markings/logos except for the word TOP.  The back side has DCMR Mfg. USA. 



Markings on the back side:









Caution Fan (additional note) :
The only fan shrouds that ever came with a “Caution Fan” sticker were the service replacements.  This may have started in the mid-’70’s.  Originally from the factory, this sticker was not placed on the fan shroud in 1968 to 1970.  There have been discussions that they may have been placed on cars by the dealer when the vehicle came in for service at a later date, possibly related to a service bulletin.     


     

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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2011, 01:48:53 AM »
Thanks for sharing - the decal was part of a service campaign where the dealers were given thousands and they were sent out to every registered Ford owner in the country. Believe the letter that was sent with them, to the owners, is available in reproduction form

When I get time I'll convert the post over to another article for the site

Thanks again
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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 04:20:18 PM »
Great article Marcus thanks.

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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 12:43:16 AM »
Thanks for posting that info and those pictures.

My shroud has been painted satin black (Krylon?). What method of paint removal works best so as the final look best matches a natural finish of the C8ZE--A shroud? Will chemical strippers effect the shroud material?

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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 02:04:08 AM »
Thanks for posting that info and those pictures.

My shroud has been painted satin black (Krylon?). What method of paint removal works best so as the final look best matches a natural finish of the C8ZE--A shroud? Will chemical strippers effect the shroud material?

I think I would try (test in a hidden area on the inside first) lye- Easy Off oven cleaner if so will do the job.  Have used it with success on the interior fiberglass/plastic interior pieces in the past with no problem
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Re: 428 Cobrajet Fan Shroud Identification
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 10:53:15 AM »
Thanks for posting that info and those pictures.

My shroud has been painted satin black (Krylon?). What method of paint removal works best so as the final look best matches a natural finish of the C8ZE--A shroud? Will chemical strippers effect the shroud material?
I use a lacquer bath and very fine steel wool. Lacquer which is loaded into a spray gun is used to loosen the paint and wash it away with the help of the steel wool. Spray some on and let it start to wrinkle the paint.  You may have to encouage it to come off with the very fine steel wool. Rinse off with more thinner. Use in well ventilated area with protection (I use plastic tarps) surrounding your work area so splashing lacquer does not find it's way onto something it shouldn't  ;). Don't ask me how I know  . Bob
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