Topic: Engine paint

[Yellow r code]

What are most people using for engine paint these days. I want something long lasting that will not fade in 6 months of driving my car. I was reading about the POR 15 engine temp paint. It a straight enamel paint. I went to PPG, they told me urethane paint, because they didn't have a high temp paint.  Thanks for the help everyone.

[Bob Gaines]

What are most people using for engine paint these days. I want something long lasting that will not fade in 6 months of driving my car. I was reading about the POR 15 engine temp paint. It a straight enamel paint. I went to PPG, they told me urethane paint, because they didn't have a high temp paint.  Thanks for the help everyone.

I keep a sheet hung up in my paint room because people are constantly asking me about the engine paint. The PPG is if you want to use the best product IMO and is what the high scoring concours cars typically use. The POR is typically too dark . At least all of the times that I have seen it sprayed out on a engine. The PPG paint holds up well with all of the heat put out on a typical engine. If a smallblock where the exhaust manifolds were installed when engine was painted and a small amount of overspray is typical it holds up for a very long time even with the high heat of the manifolds. On bigblocks there is typically no paint on the exhaust manifolds.

[warwick]

PPG DAR (Acrylic Enamel) is not available in many states- a good enamel takes heat well. I don't know if PPG offers DAR any more. When PPG says urethane they typically are referring to their DCC line (premium line). They have other product lines - you should to ask PPG about temp limits. You should also ask if a primer is required-they will typically say yes.

There are other vendors that still offer a high grade direct to metal enamel(they like cast iron) (no primer needed) that handles temp very very good.

[CharlesTurner]

Yes, I think the DCC (concept) line has been discontinued.  Seems more and more challenging to get correct mixtures.  Had some paint mixed at a sherwin auto paint store, cross referencing the 13358 number and the paint looked horrible, some weird purple tint.


Took an oil pan with excellent original paint to another paint store and found an OEM match mixed in Nason single stage acrylic enamel, I think it looks fantastic.  CAS552 Atlas Blue


Pics attached.  Probably should have cut the gloss down a little more.  Pics showing different lighting.  My son Nathan painted the air cleaner.

[Bob Gaines]

Yes, I think the DCC (concept) line has been discontinued.  Seems more and more challenging to get correct mixtures.  Had some paint mixed at a sherwin auto paint store, cross referencing the 13358 number and the paint looked horrible, some weird purple tint.


Took an oil pan with excellent original paint to another paint store and found an OEM match mixed in Nason single stage acrylic enamel, I think it looks fantastic.  CAS552 Atlas Blue


Pics attached.  Probably should have cut the gloss down a little more.  Pics showing different lighting.  My son Nathan painted the air cleaner.

Is that the only label or is there a second label with the mixture list as the first label indicates ? Thanks for posting.

[CharlesTurner]

Inner label

[warwick]

PPG DAR is discontinued.  DCC is still available. DCC is a single stage and high gloss and often involves some work to match-if you have any metallic you would typically use the DBC or Shopline product lines-which are basecoat/clearcoat systems. PPG always updates for compliance - so they discontinued some DCC colors-black DCC9300 is still available. They have a new line. DCC is very configurable if you take the time for instance years ago I would use DAR and use an additive to get a gloss match for underhood blacks but now with no DAR I use DCC with a similar flattening agent.

[Yellow r code]

Warwick, DCC  (concept) is discontinued also. I bought the last of the black from my local PPG to do my firewall. DCC is the only was to go when painting small parts also I think. PPG discontinued DCC, because of the cost I was told. There wasn't enough sales to keep making it ( nationally ).    I want to think everyone on the help here.

[1969 Cale II]

I checked with my local PPG dealer, this code comes up in the Omni line. So, yes you can still get it acrylic enamel .

[Aussiemach]

Epotec epoxy primer under the color

[Bob Gaines]

Epotec epoxy primer under the color

When using the PPG product I and others don't use primer (like the factory) and have excellent long lasting results. Of course primer is recommended for most things. At least this the experience with PPG products. I can't comment on the other products mentioned in the thread in this respect.

[1969 Cale II]

I like to use a very light coat of primer, to check for fisheyes. Rather have an issue in primer stage than final paint.

[CharlesTurner]

Ospho is another option for bare metal treatment, can be painted over directly.