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Offline jmlay

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voltage regulator mounting
« on: August 11, 2024, 02:01:45 PM »
Working on the car in my signature. I have an AMK packet with 4 screws & a start washer. Which screw is the star washer installed? The assembly manual text notes, "55876-236 SCREW & WASHER ASSY. (6-REQD.)". The illustrations in the manual are not clear, lower screw view is obstructed. However, it does not appear there is a washer on any of the screws. My though is the lower screw with the radio noise filter.
Mike

1969 Mach1 428 CJ Ram Air
San Jose
Scheduled Build: 1/2/1969
Actual Build: 1/3/1969
Released: 1/8/1969

Offline jwc66k

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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2024, 02:37:33 PM »
I have an AMK packet with 4 screws & a start washer. Which screw is the star washer installed? The assembly manual text notes, "55876-236 SCREW & WASHER ASSY. (6-REQD.)". The illustrations in the manual are not clear, lower screw view is obstructed.
There are 6 required total (or 7, because Ford can't count, or 5, because Ford still can't count) per the "1969 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual" (AM0026 pg 4), two for regulator mounting, two for starter solenoid mounting, two for the starting motor relay mounting (which is actually an alternate starter relay) and a ground at the regulator (omitted on the 1970 Electrical installation page). No (lock of ground) washers were harmed (or used) in this particular installation. 
This wiring page is lousy.
Jim
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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2024, 03:03:25 PM »
Thanks Jim for the clarification. That illustration is quite busy!
Mike

1969 Mach1 428 CJ Ram Air
San Jose
Scheduled Build: 1/2/1969
Actual Build: 1/3/1969
Released: 1/8/1969

Offline jwc66k

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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2024, 05:08:31 PM »
Back to part of your original question -
I have an AMK packet with 4 screws & a start washer. Which screw is the star washer installed?
Ford used the star washers (both internal and external toothed types) to get a better ground connection. If that washer is not called out on the assembly drawing (and I don't see that it is), don't use it.
Looking at "Ford Car Parts" (aka MPC), the 1975 ed, illustration section 140, pg 26 (see this forum's library for down loads), the odd number screw called out for a ground is actually used to hold the bottom of the voltage regulator AND the wiring ground, therefor the quantity of screws is "4", per the AMK pack. There may be a TBS (Technical Service Bulletin) that adds the washer, but if that's the case, it would (or may) be included in the MPC. To further confuse you, screw 55876-S36 is obsolete and replaced for service use by 381922-S2 (don't use this screw).
Jim
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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2024, 07:38:56 PM »
While your at it don't forget the radio suppressor on the bottom voltage regulator screw unless your car didn't come from the factory with a radio.




Here are some pictures of original mounting screws for the voltage regulator. Appears no star washers under the head of the screw on any of these. Original finish of zinc dichromate 

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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2024, 02:28:38 PM »
Yep, new noise filter should be here today. First one arrived with the bracket detached. With the amount of corrosion between the the bracket and the filter I would say it was barely attached by the manufacture.

Mike

1969 Mach1 428 CJ Ram Air
San Jose
Scheduled Build: 1/2/1969
Actual Build: 1/3/1969
Released: 1/8/1969

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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2024, 08:15:59 PM »
Likely splitting hairs but I?m going to ask anyway.:

1) Bolt, ground, filter, regulator?
2) Bolt, filter, ground, regulator?
3) Bolt, filter, regulator, ground?
Mike

1969 Mach1 428 CJ Ram Air
San Jose
Scheduled Build: 1/2/1969
Actual Build: 1/3/1969
Released: 1/8/1969

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: voltage regulator mounting
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2024, 08:23:15 PM »
Yep, new noise filter should be here today. First one arrived with the bracket detached. With the amount of corrosion between the the bracket and the filter I would say it was barely attached by the manufacture.

Bummer - guess it would cost a couple dollars more if they welded the two together like originally. So goes the reproduction parts and market at times. Guess its glue or very thin two side industrial tape time  ::)
Jeff Speegle

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