Author Topic: 390 GT Engine Compartment  (Read 2834 times)

Offline DTruitt

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2024, 10:00:07 PM »
It is a 390 GT 4-speed fastback built in San Jose in January 68 and delivered to Los Angeles.

The chrome engine components were included with the GT option for the S-code engines.  Since you have indicated that your car has the GT option I would conclude that it should have the chrome engine components.  The previous discussions regarding the X-code engine, and the early production non GT S-Codes are not applicable to your question.

The disc brakes were not included with the GT option in 1968, however, disc brakes were a mandatory option for the GT when optioned with the S-Code engine.  P/S was a stand alone option.

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2024, 10:31:15 PM »
My 1968 Microfische identifies the C8OF-A as all 390 but not GT

and the C8OF-B as the chrome style with GT

I guess we have some ambiguity here. I will try to get a picture of that

Pete, I have copies of 5 different 1968 S-code Mustangs all of them have the C8OF-B air cleaner, except the one you posted (8T03S1116XX).  3 of them are definitely GT's and the fourth one I have the GT Option line is destroyed.

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2024, 03:40:18 AM »
Thanks again--Very helpful.  If disc brakes were included on the 390 GT, were those always power brakes or was that also a separate option like power steering?

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2024, 07:20:24 AM »
Perhaps the drawing posted above is backwards?

If so, the 1968 MPC entry would be correct

The -A is the blue one. That would seem to match  the build sheet/car ( a non GT) I posted

The -B being the chrome lid.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2024, 02:22:38 PM »
We have a damaged NOS air cleaner assembly. Been dropped and the elbow is tweaked. Designated C8OZ-9600-B. This version has the round valve on the side, the X code cars do not have the valve as far as I know. As shown in the photo, this is a service part and the box is dated 7/26/69.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2024, 02:54:29 PM »
Very nice 😁

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2024, 08:22:17 PM »
Does anyone know why the decal on the NOS Air Cleaner indicates C80F 9600-C?  Is this a Service Part Number for Air Cleaner?  I thought it was PN for decal but now I'm not sure. I have seen different PNs on decal for same 390 GT air cleaner.

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2024, 08:51:42 PM »
Does anyone know why the decal on the NOS Air Cleaner indicates C80F 9600-C?  Is this a Service Part Number for Air Cleaner?  I thought it was PN for decal but now I'm not sure. I have seen different PNs on decal for same 390 GT air cleaner.
From what I see, the (letter O, not number 0) C8OF-9600-C is the air cleaner assembly part number.  The service part number is a single letter swap to C8OZ-9600-C

The FA-41 air cleaner element has a full service part number of B7SZ-9601-A.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2024, 12:11:25 AM »
This is a 67 S code 390 non GT car engine  that was thoroughly vetted on this site during its assembly.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2024, 06:20:37 AM »
Looking very nice

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2024, 01:24:54 PM »
This is a 67 S code 390 non GT car engine  that was thoroughly vetted on this site during its assembly.
As nice and authentic looking this engine is detailed I saw a couple of small things that would make it more authentic. I would try and find some of the castle head type bolts for the smog pump pulley like is more typical . The A/C idler pulley should have the bearing cover/cap zinc and not painted black.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2024, 02:45:53 PM »
I would try and find some of the castle head type bolts for the smog pump pulley like is more typical .
The correct industry name is "Place Bolt". The design was intended to act as a locking feature.
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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2024, 07:35:53 PM »
Here's the build sheet and Marti for my 68 "S" code. It's a late build Metuchen car, The tape covered the "GT" block on the build sheet but it's definitely a GT. Has the chrome lid air cleaner with the round air cleaner vacuum door and chrome covers.  Also odd that it shows a 55 amp alt. but I think this was covered in a previous post ...

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2024, 09:01:55 PM »
Thanks for posting this

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Re: 390 GT Engine Compartment
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2024, 09:23:26 PM »
That is interesting Pete. I do not know if I have ever seen a 67-68 S code non-GT. I would like to see any documentation that you may have. I have a 12-12-67 Ford sales addendum that states: 390 -cu. in. V8 engine option now only available with GT equipment group. So, if you think only non-GT cars would have had painted air cleaners, they will have to be 67s and early 68s.

Many years ago, I looked at a 67 S-code convertible (to buy) that was not a GT car. It was a Metuchen built mustang and PIO was not on the buck tag. It had a non-cutout rear valance and turn down exhaust tips, mustang letters and 390 running horse of both fenders. The engine did have chrome valve covers and dipstick but the air cleaner was missing. I am not as organized as Jeff so it may take me awhile to find the pictures that I took.

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