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67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« on: February 28, 2023, 02:25:03 PM »
Does anyone know how to peel off/remove best the original inlays of the original shifter plate and console top plate?

Are they factory glued on?

Temperature? Knife? Dremel?

Any procedure/process suggestions?

Thank you.
1967 Convertible 289, C4 Automatic, Built Nov 30 1966, SJ, DSO75.

Offline 67gta289

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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 02:44:52 PM »
I don't think there is an inlay - it was cast in one piece and then machined.  The clip was riveted on. 

Edit - my reply was limited in scope to the original question, namely the console pieces.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 06:32:04 PM by 67gta289 »
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 04:22:10 PM »
The brushed aluminum part is a sticker. Never understood why the reproduction has the grain running 90 degrees off. Use a razor blade to lift one corner. It comes right off.
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2023, 04:53:51 PM »
To add,a heat gun AND a razor blade to get under and lift makes the job easier.
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2023, 05:18:11 PM »
I don't think there is an inlay - it was cast in one piece and then machined.  The clip was riveted on.

+1, I agree...machined surfaces on original examples I have seen, radio plate, shifter plate, console top and ash tray lid.
Inlays used on dash parts, not on doors nor on consoles (from the factory).
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2023, 05:28:04 PM »
Hm....different answers. Where to go from here?
(I do not have repros glued on the original plates, its original).
Means, there are no inlays on orginals as far as I understood now.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 05:46:27 PM by Ralf »
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2023, 05:54:34 PM »
Original deluxe dash pieces have inlays glued to a plate with tabs.  Heat and a razor blade to get under and lift up inlay is how you separate those. I am not familiar with the console piece.
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2023, 09:29:18 PM »
Original deluxe dash pieces have inlays glued to a plate with tabs.  Heat and a razor blade to get under and lift up inlay is how you separate those. I am not familiar with the console piece.


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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2023, 11:44:35 PM »
May be a "misunderstandig" in wording.
I was asking for the
- shifter trim plate bezel and
- console top plate (ash tray the same)
Not for the shifter plate insert, which can be removed like described with some heat and a razor blade.
That means to me its not possible to remove anything on those 3 parts as been said by John and Richard.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 11:47:51 PM by Ralf »
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2023, 12:17:16 AM »
I was confused about exactly what was being described so stayed away earlier in the day. I too believe, if I understand the sections your referring to, that those are all one piece sections with the details, including what your asking, are cast into and finished

A few pictures to illustrate some of the features  notated by the colored arrows to help the discussion. Some of the others may have been thinking of the automatic insert (yellow arrow)  that is an add on (glued down) feature but will let them confirm or clarify. That panel is glued to the sift indication that is attached to the floor not the shifter bezel









« Last Edit: March 01, 2023, 12:20:44 AM by J_Speegle »
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2023, 03:00:38 AM »
Yes Jeff....green and blue arrows show what I was asking for.
Thank you.
So, no way to pull them off.
But nowadays the repro inlays are much thicker than in previous years , 0,8mm.
I would like to hide the highly pitted surfaces. Looks aweful.
But repros look much more aweful? So, better to leave it like it is to keep the original touch, even pitted?
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2023, 05:25:55 AM »
But repros look much more aweful? So, better to leave it like it is to keep the original touch, even pitted?

Like many things its about choices, and making best of the choices.

I would make the choice of which one looks better for you, if your concerned about judging choose the one that you will likely loose the least points with, if not interested then choose the one you feel better with. All the while searching for an original or donor console you can swap the tops out for. Then when done swap yours with those, reassemble the donor console and sell it to off set or pay for everything.

Its a bolt on item so upgrade can always be in its future.

Just one way to look at the current situation. Hope it helps in some way.
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 07:10:15 AM »


I forgot to list this item. This is the only console section with brushed aluminum inlay insert. Clearly, only on automatic transmission examples.
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Re: 67 shifter and top plate center console removal
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2023, 02:09:08 PM »
Made a deeper search and found this posted by Richard.

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=11705.msg73081;topicseen#msg73081

May be and due to the fact that the new repro overlays are much thicker now, this could be a possibilty using a sanding disc to strip off to bare pot metal, provide a smoth surface and than to glue on the overlays and finally to polish them to have a closer approach to the more shiny orginal.

Sounds like a hell of work with a questionable result...
« Last Edit: March 01, 2023, 02:11:48 PM by Ralf »
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