Topic: Brake line clip color

[Flade]

Are the three brake line clips (1 rear, & 2 front) that hold the flex lines to the body supposed to be Zinc (Silver) or Zinc with Chromate (Gold) plated? 

The clips sold by NPD are all Zinc, but I though I remember originals being Gold colored.

The same goes for the Brake Shoe retaining Pins.  I believe the originals had Gold (Chromate) coating over the Zinc. Is this correct?

My car is a late 68 built at the San Jose Plant.

[jwc66k]

Got a Ford part number? I looked at the "68 Mustang Chassis Assembly Manual" and couldn't figure out which ones they were. Some have Ford engineering part numbers, some are regular Ford hardware part numbers.
Jim

[Bob Gaines]

Are the three brake line clips (1 rear, & 2 front) that hold the flex lines to the body supposed to be Zinc (Silver) or Zinc with Chromate (Gold) plated? 

The clips sold by NPD are all Zinc, but I though I remember originals being Gold colored.

The same goes for the Brake Shoe retaining Pins.  I believe the originals had Gold (Chromate) coating over the Zinc. Is this correct?

My car is a late 68 built at the San Jose Plant.

Shoe pins were typically gold. I don't remember seeing the flex hose clips in zinc or gold chromate. P/O or late 68 may have been safety red over P/O. 

[RoyceP]

Are the three brake line clips (1 rear, & 2 front) that hold the flex lines to the body supposed to be Zinc (Silver) or Zinc with Chromate (Gold) plated? 

The clips sold by NPD are all Zinc, but I though I remember originals being Gold colored.

The same goes for the Brake Shoe retaining Pins.  I believe the originals had Gold (Chromate) coating over the Zinc. Is this correct?

My car is a late 68 built at the San Jose Plant.

For a '68 AMK sells the clip for the rear hose as B-13169 with a Phosphate + Oil finish followed by a red coating. The E-brake clips are B-13142 in the same finish which I believe is correct.


Link: [size=78%]https://www.amkproducts.com/i-kits/ford-individual-fastener-kits/?year_=1968&model=Mustang&category=Brakes[/size]

[Flade]

Thank you, I have the correct red hairpins for the E brake.  I haven?t seen the B-13169 red clips from AMK, thanks for the lead on that.  I?ll have to find someone who sells them (or put together a decent sized order from AMK)

I tried searching on the Assembly manual numbers and couldn?t find a reference I could link to a AMK part.  Front clips are listed as C8ZA-2814-A, the single rear clip is listed as C9ZA-2814-A

[Bob Gaines]

Zinc phosphate the clip or bolt and then apply Dykem layout dye.  https://www.amazon.com/Dykem-04968-Layout-Fluid-Brush/dp/B007464BQM/ref=sr_1_3

[Flade]

Great stuff thanks, just ordered it

[J_Speegle]

You can use in the pinch a red marker pen such as a wide sharpie in place. Both as simple red dyes and fi you will oil or wax either it will help with the color lasting a bit longer

[J_Speegle]

For a '68 AMK sells the clip for the rear hose as B-13169 with a Phosphate + Oil finish followed by a red coating. The E-brake clips are B-13142 in the same finish which I believe is correct.

Have you confirmed that for and on original 68 San Jose built cars?

Do have unrestored examples from San Jose with the safety red e brake cable clips as shown below

Thank you, I have the correct red hairpins for the E brake.  I haven?t seen the B-13169 red clips from AMK, thanks for the lead on that.  I?ll have to find someone who sells them (or put together a decent sized order from AMK)

Any problem with refinishing the originals. Pretty simple.  If not pitted, clean them up, gun blue them and then add the red dye, oil/wax and your done

I tried searching on the Assembly manual numbers and couldn?t find a reference I could link to a AMK part.  Front clips are listed as C8ZA-2814-A, the single rear clip is listed as C9ZA-2814-A

Different number suggest different part in finish or design though the service replacement (C9 part in this example) will work

[RoyceP]

Have you confirmed that for and on original 68 San Jose built cars?

Do have unrestored examples from San Jose with the safety red e brake cable clips as shown below

No virtually every car I restore was built in Dearborn. Even then these parts are normally so rusty they are not useful for reference. Only Metuchen for the '68 Shelbys I work on so no San Jose cars there either.

[Flade]

Great pictures of the unrestored parking brake cable.  I?ll need to add the yellow paint on the cable.  It seems to pretty thin, almost like a dye or wash.

Unfortunately my original clips for the flex hoses are pretty badly pitted. The replacement parts are not shaped properly.   I?ll. See if ai can find some originals o refinish

[Bob Gaines]

Great pictures of the unrestored parking brake cable.  I?ll need to add the yellow paint on the cable.  It seems to pretty thin, almost like a dye or wash.

Unfortunately my original clips for the flex hoses are pretty badly pitted. The replacement parts are not shaped properly.   I?ll. See if ai can find some originals o refinish

Typically orange. The small sample looks orange to me but that is because that is what I am used to seeing.

[J_Speegle]

Bob got to the orange before I did since I was putting together some pictures  All good

Great pictures of the unrestored parking brake cable.  I?ll need to add the yellow paint on the cable.  It seems to pretty thin, almost like a dye or wash.

The paint mark on the end of the E brake conduit is not a typical examples of what is typically found. Orange is the standard expected mark and was paint. Not sure if the ones in the picture posted above was watered.reduced down too much or simply the worker forgot to stir before they started marking this one - my guess. The orange color mark started in 68 and continued into 69

Suggest you go with the strong standard orange unless you can document a mark that is original specific car


Upper left is a close up of the off orange from the specific car in the Unrestored picture thread

[Flade]

Thanks J,

  I?ve got some perfect orange for that color you show correct for 68.  I?m going to soak my original cable ends and see if there is any paint left to match as well.

[Bob Gaines]

If wanting to be historically accurate do not make the paint perfect unmarred . The paint apparently was applied to the fittings before they were crimped on the cable. The paint typically had various markings made into it from the crimping on of the fitting process. This is confirmed by the vast majority of NOS and survivor examples. It is common to see them made perfect painted on restored cars.