Topic: 68 wire and vacuum hose bundle strap

[warwick]

I can't pin down the part number or a source for this T-stud mounted 7" adjustable bundle strap with plastic tie rivet. My application is a 68 Cougar on the firewall where it bundles vacuum hoses and washer hose.

Has anyone seen a source for it? (AMK and Auveco don't have).

Thank you

[J_Speegle]

That's a different strap than Mustangs used. Think you already found that out. Don't believe anyone reproduces it. Might dig up the original part number and do a search to see if anyone has got a package  of originals floating around. Not sure if they are used on T Birds but you might want to check that possibility also.

[CT428CJ]

That's a different strap than Mustangs used.

That looks very similar to what is used on 1968 Mustangs to me.

Picture #13 in this thread: https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5365.0

A few more pictures of Spring 1968 built Dearborn Mustangs attached.

I have no idea where to find one though.

[Bob Gaines]

That looks very similar to what is used on 1968 Mustangs to me.

Picture #13 in this thread: https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5365.0

A few more pictures of Spring 1968 built Dearborn Mustangs attached.

I have no idea where to find one though.

As it pertains to the flat retainer of the metal firewall post try NPD 2022 edition of their catalog pg. 228 first column under wire harness . They are part of a kit.

[jwc66k]

That looks very similar to what is used on 1968 Mustangs to me.

The one used in 1968 (and 1967 thru 73) is 374320-S and is 4 inches long. The original post stated 7 inches long. AMK shows the strap without a retaining pin.
Jim

[warwick]

It is 7 inches long and has a plastic rivet. The link for 68 Mustang shows it.

[jwc66k]

It is 7 inches long and has a plastic rivet. The link for 68 Mustang shows it.

Which "it" are you referring to, the 68 Mustang application or the Cougar? Yes it has a plastic "push pin", but that pin is not shown on the assembly drawings (implied by that as being part of the strap), nor is it shown in the AMK Guide To Ford Fasteners (implied that it is a separate item).
Jim. 

[warwick]

The rivet or pin is required to secure the bundle and therefore it is part of the strap. The Assembly Manuals refer to the shorter strap of which you cited the PN. The shorter strap secures to the T-stud. I believe the use of the longer strap was either a running change or a line change. To utilize the shorter strap is more difficult (ie: time consuming) then the 7" adjustable strap. They both mount on a T-stud which is a bit more difficult to see/access.

It is clear from the pictures shown this strap applies to both 68 Mustangs and Cougars.

I have yet to identify the PN. It is not in AMK's Ford Fastener Book or the 66 Standard Utility Parts Book (I think that is the name).

[krelboyne]

AMK B-13202  AMK describes it as 8.25" OAL (over all length).
Ford number C1VF-19B915-A (per AMK)

[jwc66k]

AMK B-13202  AMK describes it as 8.25" OAL (over all length).
Ford number C1VF-19B915-A (per AMK)

Bingo - maybe. It's shown as used in the air conditioning evaporator hose retaining for a 1968 Shelby GT350 only (4 required). The pin is shown as part of the AMK drawing.

The rivet or pin is required to secure the bundle and therefore it is part of the strap.

If so, AMK would have stated as such.

The shorter strap secures to the T-stud.

Please identify "T-stud".

I believe the use of the longer strap was either a running change or a line change.

If that were the case, then this "running change" would/should be reflected in the 1969 and on Assembly drawing.

It is clear from the pictures shown this strap applies to both 68 Mustangs and Cougars.

That's an assumption, which may not pass an extensive judging event.
Jim

[warwick]

A T-stud (it looks like a small common nail head) is a stud welded to the firewall where you secure the strap-the elongated hole slips over the T-stud. The pin or rivet head is where another elongated hole would secure the bundle. With a short (4") strap both elongated holes slip over the T-stud.

I don't want to be a killjoy but B-13202 is not the one.  It is not designed to work with a T-stud-it has no elongated holes. It is rubber and bundles hoses/wires but does not secure to a T-stud. The original straps are plastic, 7" long and all holes are elongated.

The unrestored cars depicted in the pictures and links-both Mustang and Cougars have these straps. The car I removed it from was a low mileage (29Kmiles) car, very original.

[warwick]

BTW sometimes if a screw is protruding through the firewall they will use that for the strap by pressing the elongated hole over the screw.

I have 3-5 T-studs on my firewall with straps-most 4".

[jwc66k]

A T-stud (it looks like a small common nail head) is a stud welded to the firewall where you secure the strap-the elongated hole slips over the T-stud.

Thanks. I've usually referred to them as mounting studs.

I don't want to be a killjoy but B-13202 is not the one.

Plus it's too long. You say the strap is 7 inches long (374320-S is 4 inches long) so, i guess, keep looking.
For reference, it's not in the 2010 AMK catalog either.
Jim

[krelboyne]

How about AMK B-13203 ?
7 inches long, 1/2 inch wide. Ford part number C3AA-3A672-A. Designed for holding power steering hose per AMK. Does not look like the OEM P/S hose strap though.
My catalog is dated 2014.

[warwick]

B-13203 is not designed for use with a mounting stud. It is also rubber. It is designed for different use. If you look at where they used this strap-I have only seen on stud above power brake booster under the cowl overhang on firewall it is a little tough to get to and they don't want to pinch hoses vacuum or windshield washer so it provides a stand-off. If you use a 4 inch strap it is tough to get on and you run risk of pinching or chaffing hoses.