Topic: 1966 Ralley Pac Finish -

[jwc66k]

What is the finish type of a low profile 66 Ralley Pac? It is wrinkle point, but is it enamel, powder coat or what? Mine has an excess of dings and scratches and I want to refinish it.
Jim

[Bob Gaines]

What is the finish type of a low profile 66 Ralley Pac? It is wrinkle point, but is it enamel, powder coat or what? Mine has an excess of dings and scratches and I want to refinish it.
Jim

I use the VHT black wrinkle paint. It gives the same look as original when applied properly . I have compared the end results to NOS examples of Rally pac pods(67 Shelby gauge pod) ,valve covers and air cleaner lids. There are others on the market that most likely work well too but since I have had success with the VHT product I have not tried others in years. Just what has worked for me. 

[jwc66k]

I use the VHT black wrinkle paint. It gives the same look as original when applied properly .

I've used the VHT paint as well. But I need a lighter color paint, and black is way too dark. Too many coats of paint also fills the wrinkle finish so I may strip the existing paint and start from scratch. Being that powder coat is difficult to remove, I asked if that what was there originally.
Jim

[Bob Gaines]

I've used the VHT paint as well. But I need a lighter color paint, and black is way too dark. Too many coats of paint also fills the wrinkle finish so I may strip the existing paint and start from scratch. Being that powder coat is difficult to remove, I asked if that what was there originally.
Jim

I was not suggesting a repair job. Starting from scratch is the best way to proceed. The original coating is not typically too difficult to remove which suggests that it was not a powder coating process.

[jwc66k]

Starting from scratch is the best way to proceed. The original coating is not typically too difficult to remove which suggests that it was not a powder coating process.

Thanks Bob. I found a source for "generic" white wrinkle paint which should get covered nicely with a light spray coat of the "off white" rattle can that's available for a 66.
Jim

[rockhouse66]

I am curious where you found the white wrinkle.  My Rally Pac is white and I think we ended up with maybe a silver or gray wrinkle coat and the white on top because I couldn't find white.

[CharlesTurner]

Remember that the inside of the pods, closest to the gauges is low gloss black and smooth (no wrinkle paint).  Seen a lot of rally-pac's restored over the years that are incorrectly painted a single color.

[jwc66k]

I am curious where you found the white wrinkle.  My Rally Pac is white and I think we ended up with maybe a silver or gray wrinkle coat and the white on top because I couldn't find white.

Jim,
I found them on the net (how quaint for paint), L V P Paints www.lvppaints.com as "Axalta GFW600W2 White Wrinkle", their stock/ordering number (on the invoice) "AXTA-120Z-GFW600W2-MSTD", a 12 oz spray can.
I haven't tried it yet.

Remember that the inside of the pods, closest to the gauges is low gloss black and smooth (no wrinkle paint).  Seen a lot of rally-pac's restored over the years that are incorrectly painted a single color.

Details, details, details. That's what makes this car stuff interesting. Thanks.
Jim

[jwc66k]

Remember that the inside of the pods, closest to the gauges is low gloss black and smooth (no wrinkle paint).  Seen a lot of rally-pac's restored over the years that are incorrectly painted a single color.

I did a search and found no Low Profile 66 type Ralley Pac painted as you described. See attached. There is no "black in the hood". Now, I do remember "black in the hood" types, but could they be 65 High Profile types?
(The colors were selected at random, but they remind me of a certain upcoming birthday next month.)
Jim
Upon further review (aka - a search), pictures of the High Profile types were all black with the exception of ones with a chrome outer ring.

[rockhouse66]

Here is a picture of an original showing the detailing mentioned.

[jwc66k]

Here is a picture of an original showing the detailing mentioned.

It looks like you're doing some "clock work". Here's a link to what I did and how I did it to the contact problem.
https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13041.msg79808#msg79808
Jim

[CharlesTurner]

Here's a pic of Mike Murray's 10k original mile '65 convertible... shows the detail mentioned.  I had a '65 GT convertible with medium blue that originally came with a medium blue low profile rally-pac.  It had the same detailing. 

[jwc66k]

Here's a pic of Mike Murray's 10k original mile '65 convertible... shows the detail mentioned.  I had a '65 GT convertible with medium blue that originally came with a medium blue low profile rally-pac.  It had the same detailing.

Charles,
Thanks. I guess there are way to many reproductions "floating" out there, they are "deceptive".
Here's what I'm thinking the painting procedure should be.
Remember: A light color primer, white or light gray, is used for light color paints. A dark primer is used for darker colors. Do not use lacquer paint in this procedure.
Procedure, for a light color final color (white, blue, red):
Note: All attaching screws are not painted.
1 - Strip old paint from both rings, Ralley Pac body, wire cover and steering column clamp (chemically or bead blast?).
2 - Mask outside of rings (3M blue tape).
3 - Paint semi-gloss black on inside of rings. Note: the "lip" of rings are Ralley Pac body color.
4 - Let dry.
5 - Mask black on inside of rings (3M blue tape).
6 - Mask inside of body.
7 - Spray white texture paint on rings and rest of body, suspend to paint. (Do not paint inside of body. Do not paint cover or clamp).
7 - Let dry.
8 - Paint all pieces (two rings, body, clamp and cover) color desired. Suspended all parts to paint. Paint inside of cover and clamp. (My requirement is "off white", Ford 66 interior trim code 62 (NPD VP-5767).) 
9 - Let dry.
10 - Remove masks from body and rings.
Assemble.
Jim

[petersixtfive]

Jim
My understanding and experience with wrinkle paint is that it requires heat to trigger and cure the wrinkle process.
I have repainted a few ralley pacs and have used an oven to achieve this.
I did get a reasonable result using a hair dryer to heat a test piece.
I recommend that you do a test sample

This is from VHT website

VHT Wrinkle Plus only attains its unique properties after correct curing.
Bake at 200?F (93?C) for 20 minutes.
The inherent heat of engine operation will also accomplish curing.
Cheers
Peter

[jwc66k]

My understanding and experience with wrinkle paint is that it requires heat to trigger and cure the wrinkle process.
I have repainted a few ralley pacs and have used an oven to achieve this.
I did get a reasonable result using a hair dryer to heat a test piece.
I recommend that you do a test sample

Peter,
Good point, and I remember "baking" painted items in the oven, but those were VW extractor sections for my Sand Rail. The instructions on this can (see manufacturer above) of this particular wrinkle paint do not have baking instructions, just shake a lot, 6 to 8 inches, overlap, don't make runs and spray at 68 to 78F (20 to 26C - in case you're "down under").
My test samples may include a cast iron pipe coupling, PVC pipe section and/or a beer can (used).
Jim