Topic: 69 351W 2V engine id codes

[Buzz489]

1969 351W 2V engine id codes on Engine tag and Drivers side valve cover. Is there any new information on this subject? There is an old discussion that didn't answer what the 7 or 8 possible codes are for. I have a San Jose, July 69 "H" code mustang automatic with A/C and P/S. What code should I have? and/or a good guess. No buildsheet was found in car.

[J_Speegle]

Sorry looked through my scanned and hard copies and I don't have a build sheet that matches how your car was equipped

Another source offers the base plant code for a 351 2V automatic as 203 but that doesn't match what the buildsheets list so not much help there plus its incomplete without the other letters you would need.

Ford books list numbers 200-207 being assigned as engine ID codes for 351 2V but lists no break down by transmission or AC so out of luck there

Also checked to see if I had pictures of any matches (engine and option you listed) in the engine ID metal tags or paper labels and I found nothing to help in my stuff.

Hopefully another owner can offer a clue or assistance

[Big Al]

attached portion of my car's build sheet with eng code.
1970 Mach, Dearborn built, Aug, 20 '69, 351W 2V, auto,  A/c, p/s, 3.00 open rear
If this can help
Al

[Buzz489]

Thank You. Wish I could have found a build sheet or engine tag for my car. Does anyone make 351W 2V engine decals such as 203?

[J_Speegle]

Thank You. Wish I could have found a build sheet or engine tag for my car. Does anyone make 351W 2V engine decals such as 203?

No one is making or supplying them commercially. If it was it might be made incorrectly as far as color of stamping and such

Kind of getting off track with the 70's examples but just to show that not all 70 H codes are the same in this details see the example below. Remember that they change which version of that engine was being installed in during 70 production

[Buzz489]

Mr Speegle, You are a wealth of knowledge. Maybe I'll attempt to make one. Any guess on the color?

[J_Speegle]

Mr Speegle, You are a wealth of knowledge. Maybe I'll attempt to make one. Any guess on the color?

Hate to guess. Remember your choices could influence others that see your efforts and you don't want to be responsible for them making an error

Can share that the 69 351W 4V originals I have pictures of are all printed in red

Sure you have seen a number of threads on the site about reproducing these labels. Good luck with your efforts and sorry again for not having, currently, an original label that matches

[Big Al]

When you do decide on the "numbers, etc." for your specific eng tag, ESC will make it for you, like the other tags they offer.  See the "note" on this link for them.  They will print what you instruct and in what color, etc.
hope that helps.
Al



 https://ecsauto.com/collections/ford/products/engine-identification-decal-1969-1970-vehicles

[Buzz489]

I will attempt to not influence others on my guess and will also try ECS. Thank you

[J_Speegle]

Keep an eye out for auctions, sales and Ebay ads for a 69 H code auto AC car. Maybe that will lead to some solid info

[cobrajet_carl]

1969 351W 2V engine id codes on Engine tag and Drivers side valve cover. Is there any new information on this subject? There is an old discussion that didn't answer what the 7 or 8 possible codes are for. I have a San Jose, July 69 "H" code mustang automatic with A/C and P/S. What code should I have? and/or a good guess. No buildsheet was found in car.

Marti's Tag Book has all the info you need. 69 is significantly different from 70 so don't go by a 70 tag or buildsheet. Jeff's buildsheet piece is for a 351C-2V, which were not in any 69 cars.

[J_Speegle]

Marti's Tag Book has all the info you need. 69 is significantly different from 70 so don't go by a 70 tag or buildsheet.

Thanks Carl that gets us down to two possible numbers (one mentioned in my post above) but lacks the letters again so not all the information we need for the PO's request for information for a paper ID label and would need engine changes and other details for the aluminum take those some of those can be answered with things like engine assembly date and other references. Kevin's book  (starting on page 89) shows only the three digit code and in this case two different numbers for manual and two different ones for automatic 351W 2V

[RoyceP]

When you do decide on the "numbers, etc." for your specific eng tag, ESC will make it for you, like the other tags they offer.  See the "note" on this link for them.  They will print what you instruct and in what color, etc.
hope that helps.
Al



 https://ecsauto.com/collections/ford/products/engine-identification-decal-1969-1970-vehicles

They refused to make any 428CJ tags for me - I wanted one with a Dearborn Engine Plant letter, not the incorrect Lima engine tag hat they sell. So I made my own which turned out to be pretty easy. Wish ECS would do what you say but they are determined to not make a profit by doing things right.

[cobrajet_carl]

Thanks Carl that gets us down to two possible numbers (one mentioned in my post above) but lacks the letters again so not all the information we need for the PO's request for information for a paper ID label and would need engine changes and other details for the aluminum take those some of those can be answered with things like engine assembly date and other references. Kevin's book  (starting on page 89) shows only the three digit code and in this case two different numbers for manual and two different ones for automatic 351W 2V

This is a a DB build sheet but it is a 69 H code auto with A/C and P/S. Built March 20th, 1969. So the paper tag would be smaller C1 and then K203S in red. Unless there was an engineering change for the 351W-2V by July then it would be K203T. Assuming that California cars didn't have smog pumps for the 351W, which seems to be the case. If they did, the K would go away.

[J_Speegle]

This is a a DB build sheet but it is a 69 H code auto with A/C and P/S. Built March 20th, 1969. So the paper tag would be smaller C1 and then K203S in red. Unless there was an engineering change for the 351W-2V by July then it would be K203T.

Thanks for posting an example of an H code automatic buildsheet. Agree the red is likely the correct ink color based on other later built 351W examples we have pictures of

Assuming that California cars didn't have smog pumps for the 351W, which seems to be the case. If they did, the K would go away.

All 50 states shared the same emission standards and requirements in 69 fro this engine. Not sure the the comment about the "K" applies this year (69). Can't think of an example were an engine built would be available with or without a thermactor system. Maybe an odd export car