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Offline 68OrangeCrate

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Bad couple of years...
« on: February 11, 2022, 03:18:46 PM »
I'm throwing this one out to the wolves:  I'm embarrassed to say that I let my '68 GT/CS sit for a few years with the front clip unpainted in my garage in southeast Texas.  It looks fine... Obviously, the unpainted metal is a medium dull grey - no orange rust.  However, I know that I should have primed it immediately.  Now that my life has settled down, after a lot of heartbreak, I want to get back on this project.  Q: Will I be able to sand and treat the metal well enough since it sat for so long?  I'm this close to parting the car out.  I'm ready fir the verbal punishment 😆
MIKE the novice

'68 Flower Power Red Coupe:
289ci; C4; San Jose; Rainbow of Colors Car
'68 Candy Apple Red GT/CS:
289ci; C4 (In Garage Restoration)
2007 Shelby GT500
2007 Mustang GT

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 04:16:14 PM »
yes i believe it will be ok with a good metal prep and removal of the rest of the items. if rust has not penetrated the metal go for it.
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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 04:22:32 PM »
Ospho with scotchbrite pad will take off any surface rust/corrosion. 
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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 07:00:05 PM »
When you get tired of trying to remove rust by hand but want to leave the surface ready for primer, try Carborundum Fibratex (aka 3M fiber discs:
removed incorrect link -- see below )

I use them in variable speed air grinders or really fast drills.
I've stripped entire cars (incl paint) with these.

I gather your intent is not concours?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2022, 10:55:26 PM by Bossbill »
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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 07:22:05 PM »

It looks salvageable to me. I would use Scotch Brite pads (red) in a pneumatic sander then treat the bare metal with a phosphoric acid-based paint prep like Prep Sol or SX579. Then wash it per the directions, dry it, wipe it down with wax / grease remover and prime it with DP40LF right away.



I'm throwing this one out to the wolves:  I'm embarrassed to say that I let my '68 GT/CS sit for a few years with the front clip unpainted in my garage in southeast Texas.  It looks fine... Obviously, the unpainted metal is a medium dull grey - no orange rust.  However, I know that I should have primed it immediately.  Now that my life has settled down, after a lot of heartbreak, I want to get back on this project.  Q: Will I be able to sand and treat the metal well enough since it sat for so long?  I'm this close to parting the car out.  I'm ready fir the verbal punishment 😆
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 08:03:59 PM »
When you get tired of trying to remove rust by hand but want to leave the surface ready for primer, try Carborundum Fibratex (aka 3M fiber discs:
https://www.amazon.com/3M-03172-Rust-Paint-Stripper/ )

the link does not work for me.
I use them in variable speed air grinders or really fast drills.
I've stripped entire cars (incl paint) with these.

I gather your intent is not concours?
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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 10:51:30 PM »
Corrected link:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3M+7772ES+Paint+and+Rust+Stripper&crid=1TEYWGGXR79MX&sprefix=3m+7772es+paint+and+rust+stripper%2Caps%2C140&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

They come in mandrel built-in, hole in center for your mandrel and roloc.
There are grit options in the Scotch versions as well.

If you do use a drill, go for at least 3000 rpm. Air is preferred but you need to throttle down the speed or they fly apart is you hit a sharp edge in the wrong direction.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2022, 10:54:16 PM by Bossbill »
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Driven      6/6/70 0T02G160xxx Boss 302
Modified   5/18/65 5F09A728xxx Boss 347 Terminator-X 8-Stack
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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2022, 10:51:34 AM »

Your link gives a whole page of results. The ones I like are the 3M Roloc discs on that page, but I get 25 of them for about 1/2 that price from my local surplus dealer store. I use a 90 degree air motor from Harbor Freight.



Corrected link:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3M+7772ES+Paint+and+Rust+Stripper&crid=1TEYWGGXR79MX&sprefix=3m+7772es+paint+and+rust+stripper%2Caps%2C140&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

They come in mandrel built-in, hole in center for your mandrel and roloc.
There are grit options in the Scotch versions as well.

If you do use a drill, go for at least 3000 rpm. Air is preferred but you need to throttle down the speed or they fly apart is you hit a sharp edge in the wrong direction.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

Offline 68OrangeCrate

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2022, 12:05:22 PM »
Thanks to all!  I'm not one to give up on anything... I'll get after this thing with the 3M pads and metal prep.  Then I'll start posting updates.  This is a project that is near to my heart.  I want to finish it as a good example for my boys (and, to preserve a piece of history).
MIKE the novice

'68 Flower Power Red Coupe:
289ci; C4; San Jose; Rainbow of Colors Car
'68 Candy Apple Red GT/CS:
289ci; C4 (In Garage Restoration)
2007 Shelby GT500
2007 Mustang GT

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2022, 02:05:16 PM »
Ospho with scotchbrite pad will take off any surface rust/corrosion.

Thanks!  I'm ordering some Ospho on Monday!
MIKE the novice

'68 Flower Power Red Coupe:
289ci; C4; San Jose; Rainbow of Colors Car
'68 Candy Apple Red GT/CS:
289ci; C4 (In Garage Restoration)
2007 Shelby GT500
2007 Mustang GT

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2022, 10:38:03 PM »
Your link gives a whole page of results. The ones I like are the 3M Roloc discs on that page, but I get 25 of them for about 1/2 that price from my local surplus dealer store. I use a 90 degree air motor from Harbor Freight.

I usually get the 3M version in the multipack from the paint store.
The page was meant to give the OP (and others) a variety of versions depending on their equipment. I like the roloc too, but I use the bigger ones if I'm doing a large area.

I got tired of cheap air motors and now use the Astro ONYX Composites series.
Since I have various mandrels I have two of the 90 deg and one straight so I don't have to stop and change them out.
Bill
Concours  Actual Ford Build 3/2/67 GT350 01375
Driven      6/6/70 0T02G160xxx Boss 302
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Race        65 2+2 Coupe conversion

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Re: Bad couple of years...
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2022, 09:22:26 PM »
Just a quick "Thank you" to the group...  My Ospho was delivered and im going to town...😎
MIKE the novice

'68 Flower Power Red Coupe:
289ci; C4; San Jose; Rainbow of Colors Car
'68 Candy Apple Red GT/CS:
289ci; C4 (In Garage Restoration)
2007 Shelby GT500
2007 Mustang GT