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Offline shelby_1967

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Paper axle tag code
« on: February 03, 2022, 08:55:13 PM »
Did a ?67 500 have an paper axle code of 8935A? 

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 01:05:33 AM »
Did a ?67 500 have an paper axle code of 8935A?
I don't recognized that code sequence. It has typically too many numbers so I would have to say no.
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2022, 08:17:26 PM »
The number of numbers used on the paper axle tags depended on the year the car was constructed. Either 3 or 4 numbers depending on which classic period Mustang and in turn Shelby.

Where did you find that number? (8935A) As the number suggests a 68 application. The 935 would suggest a 3.50/1 gear ratio.

67 Examples for discussion and comparison. Commonly found with 3 numbers

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2022, 01:45:24 PM »
I was looking at one for a 1968 GT500 and wondered if they might be the same. I have a 1967 with 3:50 open. Thanks
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2022, 01:52:38 PM »
Jeff if I can confirm the axle had one and what the code is I?d get one or more printed for judging.
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2022, 03:02:16 PM »
Jeff if I can confirm the axle had one and what the code is I?d get one or more printed for judging.
FYI 67,68 69/70 GT350/500 Shelby along with Mustang got paper axle tags to easily identify/confirm  to assemblyline worker what was in the assembly. Dead nuts on makes some but not sure what application.
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2022, 03:17:08 PM »
That?s what I thought. Dead Nuts On only has them starting with 1968. Unfortunately

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2022, 04:37:29 PM »
For 67 San Jose built cars there was likely other easier to see methods used to identify the right rearend for the right car but the whole paper tag ID practice was something done at the Sterling plant that built the rearends and was likely used there to identify, inventory and track rearends.

Jeff if I can confirm the axle had one and what the code is I?d get one or more printed for judging.

Will look

Going to be interesting to see how you choose to replicate the printing methods of the 60's as I'm guessing your thinking about using a computer for this purpose. The inconsistent inking is always fun and a challenge. For example the beading of ink in the direction of travel of the application. Had fun with that when I did Dearborn paper inspector stickers. Have fun
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2022, 05:45:51 PM »
I would use one from Dead Nuts On ( 1968)as an example and use the correct code for the car to reprint unless I could find a picture of one ( the 67 Shelby) and it was different printing style than the 68. Then I would have to have the company try and figure it out. In any case I would have it professionally done.

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2022, 05:55:06 PM »
For 67 San Jose built cars there was likely other easier to see methods used to identify the right rearend for the right car but the whole paper tag ID practice was something done at the Sterling plant that built the rearends and was likely used there to identify, inventory and track rearends.
So maybe the San Jose ( like mine) didn?t get them. I would think a few cars out there would still have them if they did. Thanks for digging into this.

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2022, 06:28:10 PM »
I would use one from Dead Nuts On ( 1968)as an example and use the correct code for the car to reprint unless I could find a picture of one ( the 67 Shelby) and it was different printing style than the 68. Then I would have to have the company try and figure it out. In any case I would have it professionally done.

You don't need to focus only on Shelbys since they would be no different that for example a 67 S code. There were different colors of paper used and of course different codes as we've been discussing. If using a sop to make these check that they use the original style fonts (many are not in use anymore) since often they will use "stock" fonts - because it easier, faster, cheaper.  Also would not expect that they will replicate the other details but guess we'll see

Hope all the other details are 100% since your now focusing on details like this :)


So maybe the San Jose ( like mine) didn?t get them. I would think a few cars out there would still have them if they did. Thanks for digging into this.

No not what I'm saying since San Jose did not apply the labels. labels could have been dislodged in some cases but would guess not many They would have still be there for at least a little while. Being non-coated paper any moisture or water on them would have likely made them last less than a year of use. In rare cases you can find a little piece of two of paper between the U bolts and the housing tube but the chance of one of these making it through all the years might be the same odds that page from a news paper wrapped around the same housing would still be there after 50 plus years.  Been looking for 40 years so far and my collection is small
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2022, 07:17:42 PM »
Ok sounds good. Hopefully you?ll find something  :)Thanks

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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2022, 10:23:37 PM »
I'm confused.
You are looking for a 67 or 68 code?
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2022, 10:47:27 PM »
I'm confused.
You are looking for a 67 or 68 code?

67 Reply #3
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Re: Paper axle tag code
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2022, 11:10:03 PM »
Ok sounds good. Hopefully you?ll find something  :)Thanks

- When was your car completed at San Jose? Might want to consider adding some details about your car into the signature area so that is is automatically included in your posts since we may be asking for the details in future postings and questions.  May play a part in the answer as it often does especially in dealing with 67 Mustangs and Shelbys

- Not sure why we didn't ask before   ::) - does you rearend still have the original metal ID tag attached to one of the third member retaining studs?

- Think I've figure it out just want to present it in the correct order so that others reading will be able to figure things out for themselves in the future
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