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Offline KevinK

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Negative Battery Cable to block
« on: December 29, 2021, 01:30:16 PM »
Is the 66 289 SJ negative battery cable mounted to the engine block same as the 67? I found this one mounted on the front of the cylinder head. I would assume the alternator ground is in the same place.

Lastly, is the coil mounted to the right side of the intake with TE, AC and PS?  I found this one on the left side cylinder head.

I have to assume this engine has been removed and things like the heads replaced.  I doubt anything is correct.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2021, 03:35:53 PM »
Is the 66 289 SJ negative battery cable mounted to the engine block same as the 67? I found this one mounted on the front of the cylinder head. I would assume the alternator ground is in the same place.
The battery ground (aka negative) and the alternator ground are attached by a bolt (or a stud with a hex head drive in the middle, for AT cars, no known Ford part number, I used "UNK-02" in the spreadsheets), 20350-S36, and a lock washer, 34943-S36, to the a 289 block under the alternator.
It should be the same as 1967 Mustangs. The "stud" was introduced for early 1966 Ford 289 engines.
Lastly, is the coil mounted to the right side of the intake with TE, AC and PS?  I found this one on the left side cylinder head.
On my 66 San Jose Hardtop with smog and PS, the coil was mounted on the RH side to the intake manifold. To be truthful, it appears that the coil went anywhere it would fit on a car with multiple options.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2021, 04:54:05 PM »
Thanks Jim.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2021, 05:35:14 PM »
Just to provide you with the best and most complete answer as well as possibly some addition details that may help you we would need to know when and where the car was built as well as if the car was an automatic also

Is the 66 289 SJ negative battery cable mounted to the engine block same as the 67? I found this one mounted on the front of the cylinder head. I would assume the alternator ground is in the same place.

Lastly, is the coil mounted to the right side of the intake with TE, AC and PS?  I found this one on the left side cylinder head.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2021, 05:37:15 PM »
I've found the hex drive stud on automatic cars as there was a holder clamp there for the metal cooling lines.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2021, 06:08:50 PM »
I've found the hex drive stud on automatic cars as there was a holder clamp there for the metal cooling lines.

+1 Just was trying to confirm so I could post some examples if the car in question was so equipped :)
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2022, 03:45:14 PM »
It should look like this. Purchased the Plasti-Dip at Home Depot for the coolant line holder. I used a little gun blue on the clamp before I dipped it.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2022, 04:55:06 PM »
The bracket is identified in Ford Car Parts (aka MPC) Illustrated section, A71, page 6, as base number 7C008. I have not been able to find any further documentation.
It should look like this. Purchased the Plasti-Dip at Home Depot for the coolant line holder. I used a little gun blue on the clamp before I dipped it.
I agree. I dipped the bracket a couple of times to get a thicker layer on it. Instead of gun blue, I use the Eastwood metal blackening dip before phosphating. The bracket, 7C008, is available from most Mustang parts sellers.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2022, 10:48:26 PM »
Automatic car. I will get the vin tomorrow.

I seems the motor has been out and apart sometime ago.  No signs of the stud or bracket for the lines. It would certainly make it easier to install. I know the shop who recently put a new carb on it lost most of the original hardware. They were also the ones who stated it had 6 cylinder steering linkage.  I'm sure the shop who had the engine out lost half of that stuff too. The more I look, the more I find. I noticed 1 bolt was halfway out on the cross member. Lots of poor repairs the the engine harness too.

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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2022, 02:48:53 AM »
San Jose car
Vin 6r07c1585xx
Automatic

Not sure how early this one is.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2022, 12:52:08 PM »
You need the stud that I could not find a part number for, and I identified as "UNK02". It has 7/16-14 threads at both ends. Stud 380808-Sxx is used on the 200 I-6 only, and has 3/16-16 at the end that goes into the block, 7/16-14 for the cables. Apparently, the I-6 block is tapped for 3/8/16 threads for battery ground, the 289 block is tapped for 7/16-14.
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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2022, 05:23:10 PM »
San Jose car
Vin 6r07c1585xx
Automatic

Thanks and sorry for the delay. Been real busy with things :)

I could picture the photo I wanted to post but could not remember exactly where it was in my Library

Found it with a search of this site and the thread below  that has one or more pictures of the same area from different angles

Thread topic: Transmission Line Brackets

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=12073.msg87847#msg87847


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Re: Negative Battery Cable to block
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2022, 05:30:48 PM »
Wow, now that covers it and a few more questions. Thank you.
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correct bolt for ground wire from battery to engine
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2022, 01:11:00 PM »
having a difficult time identifying specification  and then probably finding bolt to attach ground wire from battery to the front right(passenger side) of engine block.

Any help or spec out here? Someone have one perhaps?

similar question on correct coarse threaded screw with hex top to attach ground wire to firewall.

Thanks much

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Re: correct bolt for ground wire from battery to engine
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2022, 01:22:19 PM »
Should be in the Ford assembly manual and then cross-reference to Jim's fastener spreadsheet in the library section.  Or, can cross-reference the fastener ID to the AMK guide to fasteners.
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