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Offline beatlemike

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T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« on: August 25, 2021, 12:14:21 AM »
Is there a source one can access to find out the color of the driveshaft stripes? I have taken lots of pictures of the driveshaft and I have 5 stripes. One is bright green but the other 4 are washed out. I don't have the buildsheet so that's not an option. I'm in the process of removing the rust from the driveshaft and would like to paint the stripes with the correct colors.

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« Last Edit: August 27, 2021, 05:55:45 PM by J_Speegle »

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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 10:06:34 AM »
No there is not a source

The colors are dependent on your cars drivetrain options and body style

If you cant find the colors on the driveshaft, you will need to find someone with the same drivetrain options and bodystyle that has properly documented the colors.

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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 11:05:24 AM »
The colors of the stripes are called out on the build sheet and often (not always) in the Master Parts Catalog. If you know the car's information (build date, transmission, engine) then probably someone here knows what it should be.



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1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2021, 08:33:38 PM »
The colors of the stripes are called out on the build sheet and often (not always) in the Master Parts Catalog. If you know the car's information (build date, transmission, engine) then probably someone here knows what it should be.


Drive shaft ID colors (three of the five you found) are listed on 68 on up buildsheets not on 67 or before. In 68 there are some models that don't list the colors also so its not 100%

Some of this and more is covered in the article titled Paint Marks - The Basics located in the Library
« Last Edit: August 25, 2021, 08:47:17 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2021, 10:45:49 AM »

His request has "68 Dearborn Plant" at the bottom so I assume that's the model year of the car in question.




Drive shaft ID colors (three of the five you found) are listed on 68 on up buildsheets not on 67 or before. In 68 there are some models that don't list the colors also so its not 100%

Some of this and more is covered in the article titled Paint Marks - The Basics located in the Library
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2021, 04:51:23 PM »
His request has "68 Dearborn Plant" at the bottom so I assume that's the model year of the car in question.

Yes we've made that assumption a few times only to find out that the member was asking for a friend or working on a car not listed in their signature :) Don't know for certain unless we ask and confirm
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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2021, 11:34:17 PM »
Your assumption is correct. We're dealing with a '68 Mustang from Dearborn. It's a 6 cyl with the C4 and the 3.20:1 Standard Differential. As I say, I don't have the build sheet and I've scanned the library on this site but can't find anything that tells me what my 5 colors should be.

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Re: Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2021, 10:02:07 AM »
The basic part number is 4602. I don't have a copy of the Ford Master Parts Catalog but if I did I would look there first. The 1975 Final Revision is not too good in general. The revision that would be most accurate for your car would probably be April 1969 if you can find one.


Might or might not have what you need but worth a look.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2021, 06:01:25 PM »
Your assumption is correct. We're dealing with a '68 Mustang from Dearborn. It's a 6 cyl with the C4 and the 3.20:1 Standard Differential. As I say, I don't have the build sheet and I've scanned the library on this site but can't find anything that tells me what my 5 colors should be.

All of the markings can only be found by finding another example equipped the same way from the same plant and even then they might not all match but we can help with the three identification stripes now that we know the application details other than the date the car was possibly finished

Normally (but not always) from front to rear

Dark Green - Lavender - White


Looking at all the examples it appears that the color identifiers did not change for this application during the production year. Hope this helps





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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2021, 11:02:26 PM »
Images are from a 68 6cyl, auto, with a 2.83 rear gear.  Dearborn car with scheduled build date of 12-14-67.  No options other than the automatic.  Didn?t completely match what Jeff posted for the colors.  I have owned this car since ?93 and it has the original drive train in it.  No reason to not think it was the original drive shaft.  I restored it years ago, but would have only duplicated what I found.  Have not been able to locate my before pictures.  Sorry it?s a bit dirty.
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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2021, 04:01:35 PM »
Very interesting. Thanks for the pictures. I cleaned mine up a bit and was able to see some color. Starting at the mid point and going back, I have white, pink, and green. (You're showing pink, white, and green). My two strips near the differential are both yellow. Since we have different gears, that would explain why you have a single blue at the front of the driveshaft and a single blue at the rear of the driveshaft.

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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2021, 05:19:01 PM »
............ Since we have different gears, that would explain why you have a single blue at the front of the driveshaft and a single blue at the rear of the driveshaft.

Don't believe that driveline markings on the driveline have any relationship to the rearend gear ratio or differences other than in 428 CJ's with and without the drag pak option but they are different drivelines so the markings are related to that fact rather than directly to the gear ratio
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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 05:48:52 PM »
Jeff,
If the stripes near the differential have nothing to do with the gear ratio, what do they represent? For that matter, what does each stripe represent on the driveshaft?

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Re: T code automatic - Driveshaft stripes
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2021, 06:59:29 PM »
Jeff,
If the stripes near the differential have nothing to do with the gear ratio, what do they represent?

Honestly we don't know what all the different X's, dots and stripes (other than the identification stripes) mean. And we don't know how many got this one or not. Lots and lots of cars were built. The driveline "blueprints I have are not legible enough to make out the text so they are of no help. But since the gear ration especially in a low performance car would have no reason to be different from another with a slightly different gear ratio.


For that matter, what does each stripe represent on the driveshaft?

All we know for certain is the two or three used for identification and they do not decode individually - only as a group and identify the application that model year.

Some times we don't know everything nor at the original workers available for contact and we don't have all the documentation from the period. No real reason to save much of that at the time
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