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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Front radiator support markings for San Jose 12/64
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2013, 02:40:02 AM »
Thanks Jeff.  Found a 5 for Twilight Turquoise exterior and D6 for White with Black interior as you describe.  Both characters were yellow, although I scrubbed too much off on the 5. 

Thought that might be the case ;)

I found a quote from Charles in the thread below that states the only cars prior to the GT option (March 65) that had duals were the K's.  Since my car is in that timeframe (10/64), could the yellow K under the black been used to tell the workers to setup the rear frame rails differently during 1st half of production, as I "assume" the rear rails are different between single & dual exhaust cars at that time?

Don't believe so - by the time that marking was applied on those surfaces the body, I believe, those panels were already on the car.

Looking at other Oct 64 San Jose K codes I've not found another marked like yours. Might have been a random incident and since it was only that K I doubt that it was someone playing around like other cases we find some times ;)  Now if your mistaken and the mark is over the black in that location I have a couple examples that would match up/support the finding. Can be tricky to remove just the crayon and not the underlying paintand the oils in the crayon after all these years can have an effect on the paint.


  Also wonder if the "D" in the "KD K K" along my lower radiator support on top of the black might have meant duals for 2nd half of production?  See earlier picture.  Of course it could also be that "Dave" was the guy making the marks.  :)

IMHO nope the "D" did not relate to "Duals" or "Disc brake"  Plenty of examples of the "D" on 6 cylinders ;)
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Offline livetoride60

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Re: Front radiator support markings for San Jose 12/64
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2013, 02:12:19 PM »
So first off...thanks Charles & Jeff for providing so much valuable information.  I'm learning a ton just from this thread!

Looking at other Oct 64 San Jose K codes I've not found another marked like yours. Might have been a random incident and since it was only that K I doubt that it was someone playing around like other cases we find some times ;)  Now if your mistaken and the mark is over the black in that location I have a couple examples that would match up/support the finding. Can be tricky to remove just the crayon and not the underlying paintand the oils in the crayon after all these years can have an effect on the paint.

Didn't realize you had other examples of the K in that upper area on top of the black paint Jeff.  That lends credence to it being on the paint vs under.  From the pictures and in person, it certainly looks like the yellow is directly on the metal.  However, with what you're saying about the marker oils, etc leeching through the original paint, I can't say for sure that didn't happen.  Since the PO had already sprayed shiny black over the original black on the upper half of the radiator support, I couldn't tell if the K was already there like those three on the lower radiator support.  They could have even scrubbed off the top yellow layer when prepping for the new black paint.

Also while both the K on the left and the 5, D6 on the right did seem to reveal themselves in a similar way (2 applications of stripper), the K seemed to behave a little differently.  The black paint over the 5 & D6 bubbled right up and came off while the surrounding black was attached solid.  The K required a little more scraping.  Also there was definite waxy yellow residue still built up for the 5 & D6, whereas the K is more like a stain.  You can see this in the pics.  Maybe it did leech through?  I guess I'd have to strip the lower K's and see if they left a similar stain under the black to be sure.  If I had to guess, I'd lean towards it lining up with your other examples. 

Hard to tell these subtle nuances when you're doing this for the 1st time and don't really know what to look for.    :P
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Re: Front radiator support markings for San Jose 12/64
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2013, 12:15:01 AM »
So first off...thanks Charles & Jeff for providing so much valuable information.  I'm learning a ton just from this thread!

Didn't realize you had other examples of the K in that upper area on top of the black paint Jeff.  ....................

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