Topic: Dagenham 4 speed Transmission

[midlife]

No, I don't have one.  I understand it was used with the 6 cylinder engines in 64/65.  But, in my 20+ years on Mustang forums, I've never yet run across someone who had one, let alone a picture of one.
So...Jeff: would you happen to have a picture of one?  Just curious.

[J_Speegle]

Will look or can likely go to one of the English Ford sites as I think allot of them were used in the Zephyrs and Zodiacs

 

[J_Speegle]

Didn't have any pictures of one of them out of a car so a quick trip to a couple of sites and Ebay turned these up

[midlife]

Thank you.  Just surprising that one hasn't been discussed on this Concours forum; I guess since the inliner engine is not terribly popular with the concours crowd.

[Bossbill]

I was just a kid when I took out my 3 speed and put in a 4 speed on my 200cid Mustang.
As I recall it just bolted in with little effort.
But damn, that was a long time ago.

[midlife]

I was just a kid when I took out my 3 speed and put in a 4 speed on my 200cid Mustang.
As I recall it just bolted in with little effort.
But damn, that was a long time ago.

What you're really trying to say is that you're as old as dirt?  *G*

[Bossbill]

When I did that mod painting your van with table cloth lace was a thing.
Do the math!

As I understand it the 200 had many iterations during its long life, but even in the sixties there were at least three changes to the bellhousing bolt spacing. Later models could use the V8 bell. Early versions had to use the infamous stepped/dished flywheel.

For extra credit you could buy a 63/64 (only) Econoline six that used the Dagenham and it was shifted via a 4 on the tree! I should get a column to put in my modified car to frustrate would be car thieves.

[jwc66k]

For extra credit you could buy a 63/64 (only) Econoline six that used the Dagenham and it was shifted via a 4 on the tree! I should get a column to put in my modified car to frustrate would be car thieves.

A Hurst shifter often did that too, due to it's lack of a "finger actuated, reverse lockout thingie".
When I got my new 1964 Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe, 289 HP with a T-10, I did a 'show and tell' with my uncle on my new car. He commented on the floor shift - ("Wow! A floor shift.") - then reached for the shift arm on the column.
Old habits are hard to break.
Jim

[midlife]

I never had an opportunity to drive a 3 on the tree.  I guess that shows my age, eh?

[67gtasanjose]

...For extra credit you could buy a 63/64 (only) Econoline six that used the Dagenham and it was shifted via a 4 on the tree! I should get a column to put in my modified car to frustrate would be car thieves.

I have ever seen ONE of these vans in all of my scrounging the junkyards in the later 70's.
Someone had swapped a 289 into it, leaving the 4-on-the-tree.
I don't believe FORD made a pre-67 Econoline with a 289 but I understand that some racers fabricated a few...perhaps the one I saw was one? The world will never know.

[65fb]

iI once had an early 65 with the dagenham 4 speed with the "cloth" inserts on the seats. wish i stiil had that little car, it was so much better than the standard 2.77 3 speed.

[Bossbill]

So Midlife -- two people who had one!

You never drove a 3 on the tree? Oh, come on. Really?
We need to find you a 140cid 3 on the tree Falcon.

[midlife]

So Midlife -- two people who had one!

You never drove a 3 on the tree? Oh, come on. Really?
We need to find you a 140cid 3 on the tree Falcon.

Yup, or an old truck!

[jwc66k]

Yup, or an old truck!

Without a "synchronized" first gear (hence the origins of the term - "grind me a pound").
Jim