Topic: Negative battery cable too short -289 CI

[Horsman]

Has anyone run into this?

 My reproduction negative battery cable is not long enough to be properly routed as in the assembly manual. Also the part number on the reproduction cable does not match what is listed in the assembly manual.  Please see attached pics.

Any advice or suggestions appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[jwc66k]

The service part, C2RZ-14300-C (for both 200CID I6 and 289CID V8, 60-68 Ford Car Parts, aka MPC) is shown to be 42 inches long. What is the length of your cable?
Jim

[Bob Gaines]

Has anyone run into this?

 My reproduction negative battery cable is not long enough to be properly routed as in the assembly manual. Also the part number on the reproduction cable does not match what is listed in the assembly manual.  Please see attached pics.

Any advice or suggestions appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

It appears too short to me given you do not have it routed like the illustration . The dash dash lines show it running behind the battery. The dash dash lines means they are obscured from view.

[196667Bob]

+1

Bob

P.S. What Numbers are stamped on your cable ?

[C6ZZGT]

 the part number on the reproduction cable does not match what is listed in the assembly manual.

Not a PART number those are engineering numbers..

[jwc66k]

Not a PART number those are engineering numbers..

I beg to differ with you. By the definition used world wide, what you call an "engineering number" is the actual "part number". That part number is on a drawing used by the design group to make a part for assembly line use and dealer service support during and after that model year is finished assembly line production. In many cases, part marking information is also on that drawing. If you follow the documentation trail from a dealer's service department to replace an item that has been sold (or reached a minimum inventory level), the "trail" goes to a district warehouse. An empty shelf at that warehouse prompts an order, which cross references your classic "engineering number" in order to make replacements. This "multiple identification number" system is used (successfully I might add) by almost all retail sales organizations, like super markets, home improvement stores, the medical industry, Amazon and a whole bunch of others. The US Military Logistics uses the same concepts. I cannot think of any instance where a Ford service number (more properly called a stock number) has a service number drawing that details how to build it - NONE.
Jim

[67350#1242]

If that is a Marti reproduction I have had the same problem with 2 different sets - negative cable too short.

[jwc66k]

Come on guys, nobody knows, or cares enough, to measure their cable's length.
Jim

[Horsman]

The service part, C2RZ-14300-C (for both 200CID I6 and 289CID V8, 60-68 Ford Car Parts, aka MPC) is shown to be 42 inches long. What is the length of your cable?
Jim

Just under 35 inches. Purchased at Marti...too short for proper routing.

[jwc66k]

One further question, also asked by Bob Gaines, is there a part number stamped on the cable, and if so, what is it? The intent of this information is to be able to ask Marti Auto what are they doing.
As the 67 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual calls out C7DF-14301-A for all engine applications, 200CID I6, 289CID V8 and 390CID V8, with the same routing, along the outside of the battery, I asked a friend about his GT500 and he says it's routed the same.
I also reviewed the Ford Car Parts (aka MPC), both the 60-68 edition and the 75 edition, and there is a service part number change, but the length is shown as 41 (or 42) inches long.
Jim

[J_Speegle]

Just as another data point it appears that the original part may have never been serviced using the assembly line pieces or at least not carried and identified as such. An Aug 67 MPC shows a generic C2RZ prefix part number  42" long for the 67 289 and 6 cylinder Mustang application as well as a handful of other applications

Also shows a generic 36" cable with the C2RZ prefix for all 65 V8's with alternator 67 390/427 Mustangs and another dozen Ford applications.

[Horsman]

One further question, also asked by Bob Gaines, is there a part number stamped on the cable, and if so, what is it? The intent of this information is to be able to ask Marti Auto what are they doing.
As the 67 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual calls out C7DF-14301-A for all engine applications, 200CID I6, 289CID V8 and 390CID V8, with the same routing, along the outside of the battery, I asked a friend about his GT500 and he says it's routed the same.
I also reviewed the Ford Car Parts (aka MPC), both the 60-68 edition and the 75 edition, and there is a service part number change, but the length is shown as 41 (or 42) inches long.
Jim

The number on the Marti repro cable is C7ZF-14301-A.  Something is definitely wrong, the cable is way too short to be routed correctly.

[Bob Gaines]

The number on the Marti repro cable is C7ZF-14301-A.  Something is definitely wrong, the cable is way too short to be routed correctly.

This problem has been reported on numerous times over at least the last several years that I can remember. If someone wants to report this to Marti my suggestion is to be prepared to offer proof in the way of the assembyline manual pages showing length with stock /engineering numbers otherwise do not expect any action. At least that has been the lack of results in the past for those that didn't do their homework based on reports back.

[67gtasanjose]

This problem has been reported on numerous times over at least the last several years that I can remember. If someone wants to report this to Marti my suggestion is to be prepared to offer proof in the way of the assembyline manual pages showing length with stock /engineering numbers otherwise do not expect any action. At least that has been the lack of results in the past for those that didn't do their homework based on reports back.

Recently, a problem with the Marti reproduction upper radiator hoses was remedied in another effective way of crowd sourcing with multiple examples of the reproduction hoses NOT fitting.

I agree, a few original cable examples with correct lengths are the most logical solution to this issue.

[Horsman]

I agree, a few original cable examples with correct lengths are the most logical solution to this issue.

Anyone have an original cable they could lay down next to a tape measure and shoot a pic? Have not called Marti yet, but sounds like I am not the first person who has run into this. My guess when I call Marti I will get some push back.

Thanks for all the great responses, glad I am not alone. All else fails I could hunt down an NOS, but probably hard to find.