Author Topic: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - Long Plastic Version - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose  (Read 3937 times)

Offline kev

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I have a quick question for the experts here.    I found this wire retainer on my 68 390GT fastback, San Jose, Jan 68.   At first I though it was an aftermarket part until I just recently saw this thread on vmf:

https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/what-is-this-called-where-to-find-fuel-tank-area.1187555/

Thoughts on whether or not this is indeed OEM?







Thanks in advance,

Kevin

« Last Edit: February 26, 2024, 03:52:59 PM by J_Speegle »
68 fastback, San Jose, 390GT/S code, 4spd, T code red, red standard interior, GT package, factory black hood stripes

Offline kev

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2021, 09:28:20 AM »
Adding some more photos of it









68 fastback, San Jose, 390GT/S code, 4spd, T code red, red standard interior, GT package, factory black hood stripes

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2021, 09:40:56 AM »
It is most defiantly OEM. We have a 68 J code GT HCS San Jose assembly plant that has one of them. I also have seen them on other cars. They were not always used and I am not sure that all plants used them. I am guessing that it was cars that had dual exhaust that may have received them. This might be a good subject to do a investigative survey on.   
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Offline kev

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2021, 09:57:57 AM »
Thanks!   This car did have dual exhaust being that it is a GT.   
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2021, 10:28:50 AM »
The assembly manual shows three individual C7AB-14A163-C retainers.  Neither the MPC illustration nor text documents shed any light to the part shown in this thread.  Generically speaking though the 14A163 basic part number is the most likely candidate - "retainer - wiring harness"
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2021, 11:54:03 AM »
I dont believe dual exhaust is the determining factor. More likely time and plant specific.

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2021, 12:08:47 PM »
I have found remnants of one on a 68 Dearborn built car. I believe there was another thread about this.
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2021, 12:58:19 PM »
Every '68 Cougar has that part regardless of plant or period of time. I worked on a '67 Mustang last year that had two metal clips supporting the fuel sender wire, not sure if that was a Mustang thing or not.
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 01:02:32 PM »
somebody needs to straighten those guys out over on VMF. their responses are ridiculous.
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 01:31:51 PM »
Every '68 Cougar has that part regardless of plant or period of time. I worked on a '67 Mustang last year that had two metal clips supporting the fuel sender wire, not sure if that was a Mustang thing or not.
Mustangs more typically use the metal clips 67/68 but I find the long pinch clip from time to time . I have not seen a pattern to help me understand the usage of the long pinch clip on a Mustang .
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2021, 01:43:24 PM »
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somebody needs to straighten those guys out over on VMF. their responses are ridiculous
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A lot of people noticed that a long time ago. Its not a good place to get accurate information. If you want to belong to a community and share your opinion, its just fine.

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2021, 03:12:12 PM »
somebody needs to straighten those guys out over on VMF. their responses are ridiculous.
That sounds like a job for SUPER Coralsnake . :D
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2021, 04:37:47 PM »
C7ZB-14A088-A, Shield (ref 67 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual, AM0018 PG30) no attaching hardware, not shown on 68 which uses 3 ea C7AB-14A163-C (ref 68 Mustang Electrical Assembly Manual, AM0023 PG32) possibly replaced by C7AZ-14A163-C as a service replacement, but the 68 fuel level sender wire application is not listed under 14A163. (Ref 75 Ford Car Parts, aka MPC, Text Section 140 pg 9-11. 14A088 is not listed in the text at all.) The top entry for 14A163 says "improvise". (Look in the library for sources as the retainer is used in other Fords, including 69-70 Shelby).
We used 3M 08008 Black Weatherstrip Adhesive to repair the retainer in a 67 San Jose, 5/67, Fastback.
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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2021, 05:04:32 PM »
Every '68 Cougar has that part regardless of plant or period of time. I worked on a '67 Mustang last year that had two metal clips supporting the fuel sender wire, not sure if that was a Mustang thing or not.

That is interesting, that may be the answer it is a Cougar part that found it's way on some Mustangs by error or the lack of the usual clips. The car I mentioned above that has the sleeve also has sound deadener on the tunnel. That was not done on Mustangs but was on Cougars. 

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Re: Fuel Tank Wire Retainer - 68 fastback 390GT San Jose
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2021, 05:57:26 PM »
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I dont think that site is repairable.