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390 power steering hose clamp
« on: January 22, 2021, 04:26:26 PM »
The clamp that  has a rubber  insert that oriented the hoses  what would be  the correct nut and bolt to fasten the 2 pieces of the clamp
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »
I recall a self tapping hex head bolt being used/ Inserted from below. Head had a hex head that was shaped into a thin washer like base. Sorry just what it looked like. Illustrated section of the MPC shows no nut being used on the 390 or other application styles. The Hardware spead sheet in the Library may have it listed

Will see if I have a clear picture
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 06:24:24 PM »
I recall a self tapping hex head bolt being used/ Inserted from below. Head had a hex head that was shaped into a thin washer like base. Sorry just what it looked like. Illustrated section of the MPC shows no nut being used on the 390 or other application styles. The Hardware spead sheet in the Library may have it listed

Will see if I have a clear picture
+1 . Flange head self tapping bolt .There is no nut because the bolt was self tapping into the metal of the bracket.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 06:32:35 PM »
Found some





Don't normally post pictures of/from restored cars  (top example) Both provide a better picture of the head design

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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 07:00:16 PM »
The bolt has a part number. It can be found in the Library Section of this forum under topic "67-68 Mustang Hardware Spreadsheet" in the file identified as - MHW67-68-AP06.xlxs which is sorted by application. The "application" is "Power Steering Hose Clamp Bracket-Clamp". I'll let you follow thru. Yes, it is available at AMK.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 10:41:02 PM »
Thanks for the  guidance  on this I headed in the right direction again
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2021, 12:32:05 AM »
The bolt is P/O from the factory and not plated zinc or cad like some of the pictures may suggest.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2021, 08:23:36 PM »
Some of the pictures of the U section would suggest either gold dichromate over zinc or painted. Another is bare or very light zinc.
I thought it was supposed to be bare...
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2021, 08:26:50 PM »
Some of the pictures of the U section would suggest either gold dichromate over zinc or painted. Another is bare or very light zinc.
I thought it was supposed to be bare...

If your referring to the bottom picture I posted and the example in the upper left that is a reflection (light reflecting off the polished tile floor from behind)  that makes it look at way. If you follow the section of the bracket to the left  and as the bracket in the shiny area as it folds at the front) you will see it was semi-gloss back like the other sheet metal section of the assembly

All four I posted were all painted the same finish along with dozens more in my picture collection and more in person on original cars
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2021, 12:14:29 AM »
If your referring to the bottom picture I posted and the example in the upper left that is a reflection (light reflecting off the polished tile floor from behind)  that makes it look at way. If you follow the section of the bracket to the left  and as the bracket in the shiny area as it folds at the front) you will see it was semi-gloss back like the other sheet metal section of the assembly

All four I posted were all painted the same finish along with dozens more in my picture collection and more in person on original cars
+1. Originally from the factory they were painted semi gloss black.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 06:39:36 PM »
It's been so long since I did mine I forgot which finish I applied!

This post lead me to second guessing ...
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2021, 12:28:52 PM »
Dont for get the often neglected other 67 powering steering hose clamp used on the steel tube part of the hoses just before they enter the control valve.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2021, 01:17:49 PM »
Dont for get the often neglected other 67 powering steering hose clamp used on the steel tube part of the hoses just before they enter the control valve.
So that there is no confusion for those reading ,that is the style clamp used on early 67 production. The later style 67 Clamp used at the control valve was the worm drive clamp used through 68 69 etc.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2021, 06:04:38 PM »
Any idea what the changeover date was, Bob?
I wonder if my Early March is "late".
A friend has an early May which I believe qualifies for "late".

And yes, I'm making the assumption this was general Ford/vendor change and applied to all cars with power steering.
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Re: 390 power steering hose clamp
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2021, 11:34:16 PM »
Any idea what the changeover date was, Bob?
I wonder if my Early March is "late".
A friend has an early May which I believe qualifies for "late".

And yes, I'm making the assumption this was general Ford/vendor change and applied to all cars with power steering.
My "guess" is that the change over was before March 67.
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