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Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:56:35 AM »
The signal lights  in the deluxe  hood  looks  like what appears to be a  retainer  clamp on the socket that  holds the bulb, there appears to  be different  styles of  these clamps used in different  factories, and I wonder  if they  weren't  used at all in others
Also  what  would be the  correct finish  of the clamp and sheet metal  screw that  holds it
The housing that  holds the bulb assembly  is metal but has a painted  finish  on it,any one know what that would be
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 05:44:54 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM »
This has been discussed quite a bit over the years.  Check out this thread in particular.  I did not check to see if it answers your specific question though.

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5026.0
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 05:45:01 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 05:12:49 PM »
Thanks for the thread,but I was looking for  something  more specific regarding the actual light housing
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 05:45:09 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 05:47:49 PM »
The signal lights  in the deluxe  hood  looks  like what appears to be a  retainer  clamp on the socket that  holds the bulb, there appears to  be different  styles of  these clamps used in different  factories, and I wonder  if they  weren't  used at all in others
Also  what  would be the  correct finish  of the clamp and sheet metal  screw that  holds it
The housing that  holds the bulb assembly  is metal but has a painted  finish  on it,any one know what that would be

Believe that not all got the retainer and I don't recall ever seeing one in person shaped like shown in your upper picture. Do see that the picture was posted in the other thread mentioned

Just clarifying - Your looking for the
- Retainer clamp finish
- Retainer clamp screw finish
- Not sure of the last - is this the bulb holder (it would not be painted) of the housing it gets inserted in?
« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 12:37:53 AM by J_Speegle »
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 08:48:39 PM »
From what I have seen the clamps were used in Dearborn and Metuchen. San Jose used a strip of Gaffers tape to make the light socket tight. There is a hole for a screw in the housing but no threads in it.

 I have only see you second example of the clamp and the Phillips screw.

The finish on the light body is zinc dichromate with the interior painted flat white. The gasket to the lens should be grey. The clamp was bare steel and the screw phosphate and oil. 

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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 10:11:34 PM »
Thanks for the help,my car was built  April 12 in San Jose and there are no thread holes  in light  housing, so I will  use gaffes tape,I am guessing that  is the same tape that is on the rear taillight housing
What got me started  was I was looking at  original  pictures posted in this web site and realized I hadn't seen  this on my car,just another  minute detail  that keeps  me up at night
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2020, 10:29:18 PM »
I just finished looking at 84 pictures of 1967 Engine Compartments, and 23 of 1968 Engine Compartments. Of those, only 7-67's and 1-68 had pictures that included the lamp housings. Of these 8, one was a 67 Dearborn, 4 were San Jose 67's, one a 67 from unknown plant, one a Metuchen 67, and one a San Jose 68.

Of this small sample, the Dearborn 67, and 3 of the 67's from San Jose had the brackets.

Also of interest is that these brackets do not show up in in either the 1967 or 68 Electrical Assembly Manuals, the 1967 or 1960-68 MPC's, the 1966-1968 TSB Index (I haven't gone through all of the 67=68 TSB's page by page yet), or any of the Special Service Letters that I have (which isn't very many). One would think that an addition like this would show up somewhere. I guess the next thing is to try to find the earliest date that these appear.

Any other ideas ?

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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2020, 12:44:49 AM »
We would want to also want to list not only ones with the clamp as well as with no clamps.
So far we don't know if this is an assembly line or service department details so holding back on labeling this a a running change yet

Have allot to go through but as an initial look, from pictures already in a directory about turn indicator details used for other threads, I can offer the following San Jose examples

7R1573xx - WO
7R169375 - WO
7R18837x - W
7R18970x - W
7R2264xx - WO
7R2326xx - WO
7R23263x - WO

It's a start

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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 09:19:03 AM »
7R129401 WO
7F2194534W
8R165795 WO
8R169927 WO
8R102161 WO
8F218358 W

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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2020, 11:53:38 AM »
7F01C129187  W

7F02C200943  W

7R01C205805  W

7R02S108693  W

7T01A260979  WO

7T02S211808  WO

8R01J160856  WO
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Re: Deluxe Hood Turn Indicator Bulb Detail Question - San Jose
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2020, 09:17:32 PM »
Up dated the list I posted as well as adding in others submitted

7R10457x - WO
7R108693 - W
7R129401 - WO
7R15180x - W
7R1573xx - WO
7R169375 - WO
7R18837x - W
7R18970x - W
7R205805 - W
7R20727x - WO
7R21086x - WO
7R2264xx - WO
7R23263x - WO
7R23263x - WO
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