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Offline Colorado56

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1968 Console length with A/C
« on: November 17, 2020, 10:59:29 PM »
I bought a used console to replace my cracked original. When I set them on the floor and compared them I noticed my original was much shorter in the back then the used one I purchased. Is there a different length for A/C and non A/C cars?  My A/C system is currently out of the car so I can not verify if the longer console will work.


1968 Mustang Fastback Metuchen built 1-3-1968

Thanks in advance
Dave

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 12:41:11 AM »
All 68 consoles were the same length.  Ones with AC were trimmed to clear the evaporator box if that that is what you mean by shorter. Some pictures of what you have might help.
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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 01:24:19 AM »
That is what I meant by console length. Is there a template on where to cut? I will get some pictures in the next couple of days.

Thanks, Dave

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 09:30:07 AM »
I have found some cut like the drawing and some cut strait down behind the glove box rear panel. How was your original cut?

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 11:29:56 AM »
My original was cut straight down the back of the glove box.  Thanks for the template. Now I have to decide which way to go.  What does your bottom heat vent look like? 

Thanks again

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2020, 02:03:58 PM »
This is the bottom of the A/C system with or without console. The metal clips are usually broken off and the holes for the retainers are usually broken.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2020, 02:07:45 PM »
This shows the factory cuts on an original AC equipped console. It's about 5/8" behind the back wall of the glove box area.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2020, 02:55:35 AM »
Thanks so much for the pictures.  Just what I needed

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2020, 09:07:47 AM »
Be aware the heater duct was made in two lengths, the short one was for non console cars. The one Royce pictured is correct.

As I said earlier the consoles were all made the same but modified, the bottom was also cut out if it was a convertible for the seat reinforcement structure.

Good luck with your project.

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2020, 09:33:19 AM »
Be aware the heater duct was made in two lengths, the short one was for non console cars. The one Royce pictured is correct.

As I said earlier the consoles were all made the same but modified, the bottom was also cut out if it was a convertible for the seat reinforcement structure.

Good luck with your project.

Some details here: http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=21720.0
John
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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2020, 11:19:42 AM »
I didn't know that - one more thing to watch for.

Be aware the heater duct was made in two lengths, the short one was for non console cars. The one Royce pictured is correct.

As I said earlier the consoles were all made the same but modified, the bottom was also cut out if it was a convertible for the seat reinforcement structure.

Good luck with your project.
1968 W code 427 Cougar XR-7 GTE Feb 23 Dearborn C6 / 3.50 open
1968 R code 428CJ Cougar XR-7 May 13 Dearborn C6 / 3.91 T - Lock

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2020, 01:57:00 PM »
Thanks for all the good info. Anybody know a good source for the little push in clips for the lower duct?  I some how lost one. 

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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2020, 02:17:11 PM »
For the push pin/clip fasteners, I looked in the fastener spreadsheet in the library, but did not turn them up.  Perhaps Jim can double check me on that one.

I did not see any part number on the Osborn drawing.  However, in the MPC illustration area for 66 Fairlane/Falcon they refer to a fastener part# 380457-S.  That might not be correct for a 67 Mustang, but it is a starting point.
John
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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2020, 03:25:23 PM »
For the push pin/clip fasteners, I looked in the fastener spreadsheet in the library, but did not turn them up.  Perhaps Jim can double check me on that one.

I did not see any part number on the Osborn drawing.  However, in the MPC illustration area for 66 Fairlane/Falcon they refer to a fastener part# 380457-S.  That might not be correct for a 67 Mustang, but it is a starting point.
John,
What's the section-page for the partial picture you posted? I did a quick check, and there is no drawing reference to 380457-S that I can find.
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Re: 1968 Console length with A/C
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2020, 03:47:10 PM »
For the push pin/clip fasteners, I looked in the fastener spreadsheet in the library, but did not turn them up.  Perhaps Jim can double check me on that one.

I did not see any part number on the Osborn drawing.  However, in the MPC illustration area for 66 Fairlane/Falcon they refer to a fastener part# 380457-S.  That might not be correct for a 67 Mustang, but it is a starting point.

Not that the image reflects the part that Ford used but mine were metal buttons that popped in (and one is still missing, was gone at tear-down too and never "mysteriously showed up!)
Richard Urch

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