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I was looking at the Osborne assembly guide and it appears that the 67 FE cars with AC should have had a bracket that was screwed to the RH shock tower for the heater hose that runs from the water pump to the heater control valve. Does anyone have a picture they could post of it in place as well as the hose bracket?
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 02:32:19 PM »
I was looking at the Osborne assembly guide and it appears that the 67 FE cars with AC should have had a bracket that was screwed to the RH shock tower for the heater hose that runs from the water pump to the heater control valve. Does anyone have a picture they could post of it in place as well as the hose bracket?
FYI given the 67 GT500 you are working on I will point out that the AC GT500 did not have the heater hose come close to the RH shock tower and consequently did not use any extra bracket for the heater hose on the shock tower or anywhere.One less detail that you have to fuss with.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 02:55:13 PM »
I was looking at the Osborne assembly guide and it appears that the 67 FE cars with AC should have had a bracket that was screwed to the RH shock tower for the heater hose that runs from the water pump to the heater control valve. Does anyone have a picture they could post of it in place as well as the hose bracket?

Don't recall every seeing one but will look. May be one of those things in the assembly manual that got dropped before production. we've discussed a number of details in just about every manual where this took place and likely the reason why pages were redrawn/written as much as they were 
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 10:49:07 PM »
The hose is shown attached to the RH side tower.  ( See Illustration No. 7 & 17.  Ford part numbers listed as: 42127-S2 screw and 377719-S  Clip.
I have seen the 289 Hipo cars with the rubber strap that holds the hose to the tower. They remind me of something cut from an old tire.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 11:19:51 PM »
The hose is shown attached to the RH side tower.  ( See Illustration No. 7 & 17.  Ford part numbers listed as: 42127-S2 screw and 377719-S  Clip.
I have seen the 289 Hipo cars with the rubber strap that holds the hose to the tower. They remind me of something cut from an old tire.
If you are trying to do it correctly as a 390 Mustang then follow that illustration. The 67 GT500 air cars for whatever reason did not do it that way. Numerous survivor observations confirms this. The only vintage photos of a unmolested GT500 air car engine compartment are of #100 and even it doesn't use the strap or route the hose as the 390 assembly manual illustration shows.  Which way are trying to do your car as a Shelby or as a Mustang? FYI the GT350 did not use the rubber strap for heater hoses. Also there was not a 289 hipo air car in 67 other then the GT350. Most of the time the manual illustrations can be  invaluable. In the case of a 67 Shelby with AC they are not applicable for the detail being discussed.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2020, 11:51:09 PM »
Thanks, Bob. I was showing what was in the assembly guide.  Eric sent me pictures post the install of the new engine.  So would the hose still be ran down the intake as they are less AC, or should the Water pump to HTR control valve be ran over top of the passenger side cover?  As for the strap, it was on a 66 289 Hipo car. It wasn't a Shelby.
I'm not questioning your advice or experience.  It was to show what I was working from.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2020, 05:59:59 PM »
The hose is shown attached to the RH side tower.  ( See Illustration No. 7 & 17.  Ford part numbers listed as: 42127-S2 screw and 377719-S  Clip. ..

Thanks but none of the 67 San Jose S codes I've owned had a clip there. Will see if I can find an example from any of the plants in my picture with even a used hole in that location. Does your car have a hole in that location?


If you are trying to do it correctly as a 390 Mustang then follow that illustration. ...........

Bob have you seen a 67 S code with that clip in that location for the heater hose??
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2020, 06:39:42 PM »
Thanks, Bob. I was showing what was in the assembly guide.  Eric sent me pictures post the install of the new engine.  So would the hose still be ran down the intake as they are less AC, or should the Water pump to HTR control valve be ran over top of the passenger side cover?  As for the strap, it was on a 66 289 Hipo car. It wasn't a Shelby.
I'm not questioning your advice or experience.  It was to show what I was working from.
The GT500 heater hose from the heater control valve arcs over to the valve cover and cross's over at about the halfway point to continue between the valve cover and intake.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2020, 06:42:22 PM »
Thanks but none of the 67 San Jose S codes I've owned had a clip there. Will see if I can find an example from any of the plants in my picture with even a used hole in that location. Does your car have a hole in that location?


Bob have you seen a 67 S code with that clip in that location for the heater hose??
No Jeff I have not seen the clip but then again I don't study the regular S codes that much. My comment was meant to confirm which way Mustang/Shelby he was going with the car.
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Re: 1967 FE with AC - heater hose pump to heater control valve strap.
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2020, 12:41:53 AM »
Some pictures from S code 67 Mustangs with AC. Including both San Jose and NJ in this group

7T3000x & 7R156xx. may be a hole for a retainer in a very late NJ example to the left in the picture below. Nothing in any of the others




7Rxxxx & 7R1164xx




7R1497xx & 7T227xxx. Holes in the forward face of the shock tower are for the Thermactor air filter mounting bracket






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